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#26
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Originally posted by shred
What would be the abolsute **** on this would be if they could incorporate a pan-hard bar that links the rear diff forward. Don't know if there is enough clearance because the cars are so low but that would probably give you a factor more traction out of the hole and transfer the weight under acceleration correctly. The chasis stiffner and a bar would give some ultimate performance gaines for handling!!
What would be the abolsute **** on this would be if they could incorporate a pan-hard bar that links the rear diff forward. Don't know if there is enough clearance because the cars are so low but that would probably give you a factor more traction out of the hole and transfer the weight under acceleration correctly. The chasis stiffner and a bar would give some ultimate performance gaines for handling!!
-Max
#27
Originally posted by duboisr
To Max Cooper ,, Garfinkle made a steel cross brace that clears the exhaust in front of the xr1 . The hard part was the curve around the pipe . He used 3/8 thick 2inch wide steel .It will dot break. You can make one for sure, good skill .
To Max Cooper ,, Garfinkle made a steel cross brace that clears the exhaust in front of the xr1 . The hard part was the curve around the pipe . He used 3/8 thick 2inch wide steel .It will dot break. You can make one for sure, good skill .
-Max
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Originally posted by wanklin
Engineers are also known for compromising their designs in order to reduce cost and target larger markets. I don't think that the target market is looking for a rock solid/ bumpy ride. I think the engineers may have made suddle compromises in order to make the ride bareable to the average commuter
Engineers are also known for compromising their designs in order to reduce cost and target larger markets. I don't think that the target market is looking for a rock solid/ bumpy ride. I think the engineers may have made suddle compromises in order to make the ride bareable to the average commuter
So, a stiffer chassis can actually result in a better ride quality for the same handling ability. If you don't believe me, ask any C5 engineer....
#29
Well the OEM suspension isn't exactly the softest. Maybe that is for the exact reason that you have stated. My previous remark about chassis stiffness may not be accurate but engineers do compromise to meet cost restraints and the target market. Ask any engineer....
#30
Let me just say that I do not claim to know everything about cars or have superhuman driving abilities. I'm just interested in stiffining my chassis because I have heard from several sources that it improves both handling and launching. There are many out there who prefer to stay stock to avoid messing with the OEM engineering and I respect that. It just gets old when people try to step on your nuts everytime you explore new options for your car.
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Originally posted by RonKMiller
There is no Avoca, AZ. Are you on drugs or what?
Jeeez, the bullshit on this forum just keeps getting deeper and deeper - time for hip waders.
Oh, wait a minute. You're 22. You're excused.
There is no Avoca, AZ. Are you on drugs or what?
Jeeez, the bullshit on this forum just keeps getting deeper and deeper - time for hip waders.
Oh, wait a minute. You're 22. You're excused.
WarpSpeed Performance
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toll free 866-801-9338
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Originally posted by rynberg
Hmm...how does chassis stiffness effect ride quality? In exactly the opposite way you are thinking. When a chassis is made more rigid, the suspension can be made softer and will still maintain the same quality of handling. When suspension engineers have to deal with a flexible chassis, they have to design the suspension to account for it instead of just handling road deviations and body loading.
So, a stiffer chassis can actually result in a better ride quality for the same handling ability. If you don't believe me, ask any C5 engineer....
Hmm...how does chassis stiffness effect ride quality? In exactly the opposite way you are thinking. When a chassis is made more rigid, the suspension can be made softer and will still maintain the same quality of handling. When suspension engineers have to deal with a flexible chassis, they have to design the suspension to account for it instead of just handling road deviations and body loading.
So, a stiffer chassis can actually result in a better ride quality for the same handling ability. If you don't believe me, ask any C5 engineer....
#34
I see in the Mazaspeed subframe connector picture that the kit is bolted on. I assume that any kit would have to be removable so you could still have access to the belly side components. Perhaps he could design a kit with plates that are welded to the chassis and bars that are prefitted to bolt direct to the plates. Man, I would let you use my car if I lived anywhere near there.
I have not replaced all of the bushings yet. I plan on replacing bushings, toe links, trailing arms and sway bars. The strut tower bars and true coil over setup are in place already. By no means is my suspension anywhere near finished. I'm just doing my research now so I know what to buy later. Any suggestions on what order I should go in? What type of toe links, trailing arms do you guys use? Find any problems with the toe link trail armkits that eliminate the bushings; like the M2 kit? The bushings are the next to be replaced. Any recommendations on where to get them? I know about Labrek's inobtanium bushings but I'm not too excited about purchasing an entire kit if I'm not even going to use them all since I'll be upgrading links and arms. Has anyone made aftermarket differential bushings?
I have not replaced all of the bushings yet. I plan on replacing bushings, toe links, trailing arms and sway bars. The strut tower bars and true coil over setup are in place already. By no means is my suspension anywhere near finished. I'm just doing my research now so I know what to buy later. Any suggestions on what order I should go in? What type of toe links, trailing arms do you guys use? Find any problems with the toe link trail armkits that eliminate the bushings; like the M2 kit? The bushings are the next to be replaced. Any recommendations on where to get them? I know about Labrek's inobtanium bushings but I'm not too excited about purchasing an entire kit if I'm not even going to use them all since I'll be upgrading links and arms. Has anyone made aftermarket differential bushings?
#35
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Originally posted by iwannarx7
hmm... here's their info
WarpSpeed Performance
PO Box 244
Avoca, AR 72711-0244
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toll free 866-801-9338
hmm... here's their info
WarpSpeed Performance
PO Box 244
Avoca, AR 72711-0244
USA
toll free 866-801-9338
In your post you typed "Arizona", because you thought AR was the state code for Arizona.
AR stands for "Arkansas"
AZ stands for "Arizona" Like I said, there is no Avoca, Arizona. OK?
You want to go to ARKANSAS.
Whatever.
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Originally posted by RonKMiller
You guys are going to be going on a long drive to nowhere if you try to find WarpSpeed in ARIZONA.
In your post you typed "Arizona", because you thought AR was the state code for Arizona.
AR stands for "Arkansas"
AZ stands for "Arizona" Like I said, there is no Avoca, Arizona. OK?
You want to go to ARKANSAS.
Whatever.
You guys are going to be going on a long drive to nowhere if you try to find WarpSpeed in ARIZONA.
In your post you typed "Arizona", because you thought AR was the state code for Arizona.
AR stands for "Arkansas"
AZ stands for "Arizona" Like I said, there is no Avoca, Arizona. OK?
You want to go to ARKANSAS.
Whatever.
it's like forgetting multiplication table after learning calculus
man, i'm already forgetting stuff at 22, I can only imagine what will happen when I'm twice that old
#38
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Originally posted by iwannarx7
oups, now I feel like a dumb ***, hehe, hmm.. well I have an excuse, it's the finals week. so if you want me to do Statistical Thermal Dynamics then I can do that, but figuring out which state is which, haha
it's like forgetting multiplication table after learning calculus
man, i'm already forgetting stuff at 22, I can only imagine what will happen when I'm twice that old
oups, now I feel like a dumb ***, hehe, hmm.. well I have an excuse, it's the finals week. so if you want me to do Statistical Thermal Dynamics then I can do that, but figuring out which state is which, haha
it's like forgetting multiplication table after learning calculus
man, i'm already forgetting stuff at 22, I can only imagine what will happen when I'm twice that old
Down here in ARIZONA (j/k) we call that a "Green Valley Moment". (Green Valley is where all the blue hairs live)
Oh ****! In two more years I can join AARP!
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