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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 09:04 PM
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changing clutch/flywheel: need to change T/O bearing? Pilot bearing? seals?

I'm going to be changing out the clutch/flywheel soon.

Should the throwout bearing, pilot bearing and seals be replaced while I'm at it? Car has about 80,000 miles.

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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 09:07 PM
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Change pilot and throwout bearings. Reuse pilot bearing dust seal. Changing rear main oil seal and trans input shaft seal are optional but recommended
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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When I put my clutch in last summer I got a throw out & pilot bearing with the clutch kit, The only thing I didnt do was the pilot bearing becuz its a pain in the butt to get the old one out without the tool and I figure my pettit motor only has about 9k miles so that would probably include the pilot bearing anyway
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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Reuse pilot bearing dust seal.
I don't necessarily agree with that. It's about $2 part. Most of the dust (oil) seals I've seen come out have been trashed (including mine). IMO, order a new one to be used.

If you are ordering a clutch kit (something like an ACT clutch kit), you'll get a new pilot and throw-out bearing to use. You will not get a new dust (oil) seal for the pilot bearing though...
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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so anyone have info on an easy way to get the pilot bearing out?

lets hear how you did it......
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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so anyone have info on an easy way to get the pilot bearing out?

lets hear how you did it......
Used the Pilot Bearing Puller. Worked like a charm.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 12:05 AM
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used the pilot bearing tool as well, only took oh, maybe 30 SECONDS. Without it oh, like hours and hours.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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Its just a seal to keep water and dust out. Seriously...how much water is gonna get in there? If you use the puller to take it out and don't **** it up, there is no reason not to reuse it.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 08:44 AM
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where'd you guys get the pilot bearing tool? i'm gonna get the flywheel stopper from mazdatrix... but the pilot bearing tool is fricken 112 dollars!!! haha also, do you reccomend getting a flywheel puller? or just doing the wegde technnique?
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 09:11 AM
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Its just a seal to keep water and dust out. Seriously...how much water is gonna get in there? If you use the puller to take it out and don't **** it up, there is no reason not to reuse it.
Thanks, I know what it's for, which is why I recommend using a new one. The seal is made to be slightly smaller than the shaft so when new, it provides a good seal. It's the same principle as metal gaskets after they have been crushed. But I guess you never replace your gaskets either....

However, if you want to allow your pilot bearing to fail early over a $2 part, be my guest.

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where'd you guys get the pilot bearing tool? i'm gonna get the flywheel stopper from mazdatrix... but the pilot bearing tool is fricken 112 dollars!!! haha also, do you reccomend getting a flywheel puller? or just doing the wegde technnique?
I purchased mine from Rotary Performance (RX-7.com). Have you asked around your local area to see if someone already has one that you can borrow? I'm sure there is someone around there with one. Someone mentioned a similar tool that could be borrowed from places like AutoZone but I had no such luck in my area.

As for the flywheel puller, I had a friend with a harmonic puller, so I was lucky there. I just need to buy some long bolts for it. I'm not a fan of wacking on the flywheel (or banging anything connected to the eccentric shaft). IMO, if you need a hammer, you aren't doing it right.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by 93 R1
Its just a seal to keep water and dust out. Seriously...how much water is gonna get in there? If you use the puller to take it out and don't **** it up, there is no reason not to reuse it.
The seal is literally like $2 from Mazda. Do you really want to risk all the time and money spent now that you've dropped the tranny and removed the flywheel? I dunno about you ... my flywheel and clutch weren't cheap.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 12:15 PM
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Replace them all. Most kits include them all. Mine did, including the pilot bearing seal.
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