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Old Apr 9, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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car wont start after alarm install

I installed an autopage RF-215 alarm yesterday, and now it wont start, theres no starter disable on the alarm, and the only connections i used were the +12v a ground, the wire to the parking lights, and a switched 12v. yea its simple, but hey its better than nothing. The only change ive noticed it the ABS light will go off as normal if i turn the switch to ON, but it i try to start it it turns on and wont go off untill i turn the car off. I push started (yea it sucked, but I had to), and everything ran fine. All the electronics work fine. Im not sure if my starters dead, or what, but it was working fine. the battery has been completely recharged and everything, had it checked at Advance (Optima Red Top) any ideas guys? yea i searched, but didnt find anything.
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Old Apr 9, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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ok, I just checked the battery again, it passed a load test, and is fully charged, but it went from 12.8v after i got it charged to 11.8 during the load test, there were about 4 hours inbetween. I already checked the clutch switch, i get continuity when the clutch is depressed and none when its out, IIRC thats right.

also. I had a buddy of mine try and start the car while i listened under the hood. when the key is turned from the off to the on position there is one very loud click, and when the key is turned to the start position there is one soft click coming from the relays at the front of the car under the stock airbox, and another soft click somewhere under the ABS module in the back passenger side of the engine bay. the abs light comes on when the key is in the start position as well, probably why the abs clicks

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Old Apr 9, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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my blue top always show me 13.8volts?? before i crank it.

your battey my be alittle weak but i bet that alarm is draining it down.
just a guess.
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Old Apr 9, 2008 | 11:31 PM
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my blue top always show me 13.8volts?? before i crank it.

your battey my be alittle weak but i bet that alarm is draining it down.
just a guess.
the battery was just charged today, and it wont jump either, i tried with my buddies dakota, he has a 180amp alternator and Optima Yellow top. the terminal voltage during the jump was 14.8, so its not that the batteries not providing enough power, otherwise it would have jumpped off correct me if im wrong
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Old Apr 9, 2008 | 11:53 PM
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maybe its something else do you hear for your fuel pump?
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 12:00 AM
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maybe its something else do you hear for your fuel pump?
where should i listen and what for? it was running fine during the install i started it up a few times and it was running fine till it just died while it was on battery, and when i turned the ignition off and then back on everything worked fine after that minus not being able to start it. im almost positive i didnt short anything out because it all the electronigs work fine and the motor runs fine when i push start it but i could be wrong, im not positive.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 12:31 AM
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go to the diagnostic box under your hood and jump GND and FP together. walk to your fuel tank and you should hear a high pitched whine. if not no fuel.

what do u mean it died while it was on battery?
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 01:29 AM
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what do u mean it died while it was on battery?
i hatd the ignition switch on ACC listening to the radio and everything just shut off like the battery died. but when i cycled the ingition switch to on everything worked fine again, but it wouldnt even try to start. I wasnt splicing or working on any wiring when it happened, i was just sitting next to my car smoking a cigarette.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 01:54 AM
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so you were wiring in an alarm with the battery connected?
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 07:12 AM
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Does the car turn over but not start, or is it not turning over at all??

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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:01 AM
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After doing a Rad install on my last FD, every time i would try to start the car the radio and all the accessories would come on, but when I tried to crank it, everything died (car didn't even crank)

It sounds silly, but it turned out to be the terminals on the battery. They were too loose/corroded, so I ended up getting new terminals.

Worth a shot.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by crcleofdst
Does the car turn over but not start, or is it not turning over at all??
its not turning ofer at all.

Originally Posted by revsteve
After doing a Rad install on my last FD, every time i would try to start the car the radio and all the accessories would come on, but when I tried to crank it, everything died (car didn't even crank)

It sounds silly, but it turned out to be the terminals on the battery. They were too loose/corroded, so I ended up getting new terminals.

Worth a shot.
i replaced the terminals less than 3 months ago, and i tried tightening them already. thanks guys, any more ideas?



no, i had the battery disconnected most of the time during the install i did have to connect it to check wether the switched 12v+ i had was right but i made sure all the wires were capped off and the fuse was out of the alarm., after the install, i reconnected the battery and was listening to the radio, then all this happened.

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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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alright guys thanks for all the info i figured it out, the lock pin broke on the connector for the starter relay and im guessing it wiggled loose while i was working under the dash. I got it fixed and locked in there so hopefully that wont happen again.
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