Battery can still provide enough power for all the lights etc. Those electricity consumers and not even a 1/10 of the starter. My money is on the battery gone bad.

 

this is the link contains my endeavors with the same problem:

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hlight=starter

it turned out to be bad grounding, even though we got the correct current reading on the volometer while trying to crank it over. i'd suggest checking those lines out and it could save you a whole bunch of trouble.

 

Meiogirl, while that's very plausible, I did use the Pettit grounding upgrade kit he sends w/ every customer's 1st time order...so I'd hope that helps. Plus, I never had any previous grounding issues. But if indeed everything else fails, guess what I'm going to look to? Thanks.

 

First thing you should do is go buy a $15 multimeter from sears. It's really a priceless tool, that you'll use time and time again. First check the voltage on the battery easest thing to start with. If it doesn't have a good connection or is all corroded it will give you greef. Or also if your 120 fuse blows out same thing.

Do you even get a click when the ignition is cranked over? If there is no click at all it battery, ground, fuse related, or pedal switch.

If it really is the starter like most people are saying you'll know. I had a bad starter in my 300zx go out it, got weaker and weaker till if finally pooped out. And then I would crank it over and you would here trtrtrtrtr trtrtrtrtr trtrtrtr trtrtrtr like a ignition turning over letting the juice out but starter not wanting to turn. But for insurance purposes just take the starter out and get it tested at Shucks for us Westsiders or if your from Cali or something I guess it would be called Autozones. After lifting the car up it should only take you about 10 minutes to remove.

 

Ok I'll bet you. How much we talking?

 

The battery terminals aren't corroded...I checked that real quick this morning. Oh and if you look up in the factory manual, the main (120) fuse controls a whole rack of accessories...so if you lose that, you'll know it, cuz you lost a bunch of other stuff (power windows are one, off the top of my head)

I do not get any clicks at all when the ignition is cranked (ie no crank). It doesn't even try. It's just silent (other than the sound of the fuel pump coming on).

The biggest challenge for me is going to be getting under the car. I have a professional grade jack, but I can only use it to lift up the rear of the car, since the body kit makes it impossible to place anything but the stock jack in the front, and on a VERY small area...(sideskirts don't help either). We'll see though.

 

Just push it up on a 2X6 or something large enough to get you head and shoulder under the car with a hammer.

 

I REALLY need to make some stepping blocks like Mr. Spoiler has...

 

It's your neutral safety switch! I'd bet money on it. Test it with a multimeter (I'm not sure where it's at, but it's probably underneath the dash attached to the clutch pedal). I doesn't sound at all like a dead battery. If the battery has enough juice to power everything else, you would at least hear the solenoid clicking.

 

I agree!

Either this or an ignitor issue. I didn't think the ignitor had anything to do with the starter until I had issues and changed it.

 

jump it and once the car is running put a multimeter on the battery terminals, if your not getting at least 13.3-13.5 volts then your alternator might have gone poop. if you are then id take the batter to autozone and they will test it free. also check and make sure you have good grounding. i had to add an additional ground on my 7 to keep it starting.

wes

 

K here's the new peice of the puzzle...

I just got home, I don't have time or energy to mess w/ the car, BUT I thought I'd give it another shot at cranking it (who knows...maybe the issue resolved itself! LOL...yea right...wishful thinking lol...). Before I did that tho, I wanted to see if the battery was working. So before I put the key in, I opened the door (dim light came on), and I turned on the lights. Dims, low beams, high beams. No fade, nothing. Real bright. So the battery seemed to be okay.

As I was putting the key in and turning it, I was like whaa? What's that? Then it was gone. Get this: as long as the key is not to the last point before crank (which im guessing is accessories?), or not cranking, and the lights are up and on, I hear something making this noise: bup-burrum, bup-burrum, bup-burrum, bup-burrum, etc. It's either 2 clicks, or 3 clicks very fast, and they'll continue to click as long as I have the car in that status. The sound sounds like it's coming from the front of the car, and toward the right (as described from me sitting in the driver seat). So the key can be out, the key can be in but not turned, or turned to the first or second click, but NOT to the third click, and NOT cranking. And the lights must be up.

So naturally, I popped the hood, and turned the lights on (key is out at this point, mind you). Sure enough, the sound came back. It was coming from what I believe is the ABS unit. It could be coming from right below the ABS unit...I'm not 100% sure, but if I was a betting man, I'd put my money on the ABS unit itself.

I started to feel the unit, trying to see where it's coming from (since it's a distinct clicking sound...something is definitely clicking). I felt no vibration coming from the metal block of the ABS unit, but I definitely felt a vibration coming from the black box that's to the left of the metal block of the ABS unit.

I have NO IDEA wut on Earth this means...or if it's even related. But I thought I'd let you guys know. For now, the car's gonna sit till I have a chance to tap the starter and try giving it a jump tomarrow night. I'm tired.

Thanks for all of your input and help tho guys.

 

Isnt there some actuator going on/off with KOKO (key-on, key-off) test ?

 

Dude,

You are thinking about this waaaayyyyy too hard. It's unrelated, and very possibly normal. Check your clutch switch!

 

Ok, it's definitely not the battery, I did try giving it a jump, simply because that was the quickest and easiest thing. ZoomZoom, I'm gonna see if I can get her up on some wood blocks to reach and and hit up the starter...

 

I agree with Paw.. Its the clutch switch.... Or could be the bad connection to the starter.

I don't think its ignitor.. as you would still hear the starter turn.. I think???

 

you really should follow that link i sent you it goes through, replacing the starter, checking that clutch switch, making a jumper relay........
it ended with the groundwire being my answer but there were MANY things we checked before that was the final result.

 

Your right the ignitor has nothing to do with cranking the car over. Starting up would be a different story.

 

Lets do this already

 

I'm heading to the garage right now to try and see if I can get the front up a bit, squeeze under, and tap the starter...I'll be back soon (hopefully lol)

~Ramy

 

its your grounding.
my ABS light came on too,
my car was making strange noises too,
my car lights would come on and my car would not start.

try pop starting it, mine would start that way.

after the grounding was fixed, all these problems went away.

 

SHE'S ALIIIIIIVEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL...don't mind me...I'm extatic!! It took a while to lift the car enough, cuz I had to use a combination of the stock jack, then the professional jack I have, then I had to lift the other side too, cuz the car was STILL too low lol...but in the end, I got her up. I slid underneath, and started searching for this notorious starter. ZoomZoom told me it's a silver cylinder-shaped object behind the engine....so I start lookin. The only silver thing I found in front of the tranny case was to the right of the oil pan. I said wut the heck...we'll try it. Gave it a good 7-10 light smacks w/ a hammer, opened the door, gave her a try, and nothing. Just as I was about to let off the clutch, BOOM, she started right up!! I let her warm up for a few, shut the engine, and tried to crank again. She wouldn't start at all. I was like wtf?? So then I let out the clutch completely, and tried again, and she started right up. Turned it off again, and tried one more time...she fired up right away. Whew....I'm SUPER relieved. All I had to do was bang on the starter lol. I'll take that ANYDAY. BUT, I'm curious if my clutch switch is on it's way out, simply due to the hesitation I got the 2nd time around??

Either way, SHE'S RUNNING FINE! THANKS A LOT everyone...I really appreciate the help

~Ramy

 

WELL WELL WELL, Guess you Novices with your battery Chatter were just wrong again. .......
So where is the guy who had his money on the battery?

 

glad everything worked out for you man

 

what about the abs light?