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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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So I searched a little and didn't find what I wanted. I figure this will be the next thing on my list. the only thing I know about them is that they cost a lot (about 1k) and are an extremely good thing to have if you are running anything except stock.

So who has these WB in car setups...which ones do you have, do you like it, if you were to choose a differntly one which one would you choose?

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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:04 AM
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they arent 1k, you can find ones for alot cheaper.

i use this one http://www.turboxs.com/Tuner/tunerfeat.shtml

Its got a ton of features and better resolution then a Motech

and if you wanted you can use a gameboy advance to display your afrs. http://www.turboxs.com/Dtec/dtec.shtml
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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I use the AEM and like it. I have also used the Techedge and Innovative.

http://www.rx7store.net/index.asp?Pa...ROD&ProdID=814
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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what do you "use" it for though? just tuning or is there and advantage to having it otherwise?
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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what do you "use" it for though? just tuning or is there and advantage to having it otherwise?
The way I see it, AF is one of the most important things you need to watch. if you lean out too much becuase of a fuel gremlin then you loose your motor.

Anyway, this (after the HKS TP) is the next thing going on...Do any of these have a preak warning function that slaps you in the face or anything?


EDIT: I have never seen one of these installed so I have no clue....So will you be running 2 O2 sesors, one for the for the fuel system and the other for monitoring?

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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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The way I see it, AF is one of the most important things you need to watch. if you lean out too much becuase of a fuel gremlin then you loose your motor.

Anyway, this (after the HKS TP) is the next thing going on...Do any of these have a preak warning function that slaps you in the face or anything?

The wideband would need to know boost to be able to do peak warning or else your warning would go off every time you lifted the throttle
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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The wideband would need to know boost to be able to do peak warning or else your warning would go off every time you lifted the throttle
That's right. Derrr....AFR is higher at lower RPM so I guess that wouldn't work. Would be neat of it did that tho. Would it be boost or RPM that it would need to have a peak function
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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could you run the AEM one from the link a few above into a SAFC? it says between 0-5 volts....how would go about that? Then could that run the SAFC to adjust like the boost sensor method? or is it still better to run the boost sensor method in comparision?
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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here is the exact one i have in my car if you wanted to go nuts with it. Probably a little pricy for most, but features galore

http://www.turboxs.com/Tuner/tunerprofeat.shtml
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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i dont want to go that nuts. Well i would if i wasnt a poor SOB,
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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i use the techedge and love it!....no problems....
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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Techedge.
I have it tapped into the Datalogit for the PFC so can log AFRs.
The perfect solution for real world tuning.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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You guys know anything about FJO?

http://www.fjoracing.com/index2.htm
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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Have a hobbs switch trigger a relay at around 10psi, the relay could then provide power for another relay that was activated by the peak warning function on the air fuel meter. The power from that relay could then be used to trigger any number of motor saving devices. Just an idea.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CrispyRX7
Techedge.
I have it tapped into the Datalogit for the PFC so can log AFRs.
The perfect solution for real world tuning.
Crispy
Same as me, i also have an LCD that displays a real time graph through the datalogit software
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:17 PM
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i have a techhedge but havent installed it yet. i want to run mine all the time, but was wondering if you guy run 2 o2 sensors or how you guys have yours set up.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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I run two O2 sensors.
Dedicated WB sensor is just upstream of the main cat. FWIW:
http://www.negative-camber.org/crispyrx7/wideband.htm
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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thanks crispy that will help me a ton!!

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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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I like the aem 1 but i already have a afr gauge. dam i dont wanna open up the a-pillar and do it over again.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bee
Have a hobbs switch trigger a relay at around 10psi, the relay could then provide power for another relay that was activated by the peak warning function on the air fuel meter. The power from that relay could then be used to trigger any number of motor saving devices. Just an idea.

you are forgetting about 1st and second gear. widebands use averaging so that the numbers arent jumping around 500 times a second. typically you can hit 10psi in a low gear before the wideband has actually displayed your afr. which is why tuning is typically done in 4th gear.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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I like the aem 1 but i already have a afr gauge. dam i dont wanna open up the a-pillar and do it over again.
I'll bet dollars to donuts you are talking about one of those narrow band useless autometer afr meters that tell you absolutely nada. Correct me if I'm wrong

Dave the Dolphin, I recommend spending the cashola on a water injection system first. Will protect you more from a blown motor than a gauge ever will.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
I'll bet dollars to donuts you are talking about one of those narrow band useless autometer afr meters that tell you absolutely nada. Correct me if I'm wrong

Dave the Dolphin, I recommend spending the cashola on a water injection system first. Will protect you more from a blown motor than a gauge ever will.
Dude, how difficult was that thing to install anyway? I know you guys did it on Jason's car. I think you are dead on on that one.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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The AEM one looks pretty nice, have people used it with Datalogit's and the PFC yet?
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by the_glass_man
The AEM one looks pretty nice, have people used it with Datalogit's and the PFC yet?
You are aware that the aem gauge only shows as rich as 11.0:1, yes? below that, it shows three dashes, ---. At first that put me off, but it's actually not bad.....when you are WOT as long as you see the three dashes you are good to go
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