can any modern car compare to the handling of the FD?
12-10-06, 11:16 PM
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I have the definative answer for Handling power... 
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Skidpad: 1.4g
Horsepower: 300
0mph - 60mph: 2.9s
0mph - 100mph: 6.8s
Engine: K20A Honda Civic Type-R Motor
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Click here to see the Video
12-10-06, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by sevensix
^ it doesn't need to be two stock vehicles.
if the fd came out of factory with 185's all around would you compare it to a s2000 with 255s? lol. would u compare a s2000 with one of those SP edition rx7s?
theres never been a good way to equalize 2 cars to decide conclusively which one is better.
maybe if 2 cars were matched up with power to weight and on different types of courses etc. even then there are too many other factors that will give 1 an advantage over another.
btw in the video it looks like the fd is making 380rwhp and the s2000 only 256? in the next episode the fd did beat a 500(600) hp skyline on that same course though, i think in the touge final.. haha.
if the fd came out of factory with 185's all around would you compare it to a s2000 with 255s? lol. would u compare a s2000 with one of those SP edition rx7s?
theres never been a good way to equalize 2 cars to decide conclusively which one is better.
maybe if 2 cars were matched up with power to weight and on different types of courses etc. even then there are too many other factors that will give 1 an advantage over another.
btw in the video it looks like the fd is making 380rwhp and the s2000 only 256? in the next episode the fd did beat a 500(600) hp skyline on that same course though, i think in the touge final.. haha.
Will be even better after final tuning of suspension, not to mention 100kg less wieght and 550bhp engine
I love my FD, Not sure if they are the best handling car but on a race track they are the quickest mildly tuned car by a long way out of the common cars that come from japan. Given their age as well they are well ahead of their time.
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12-10-06, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RICE RACING
My RICESP (mildly tuned original 1 of 25 SP's) corners @ 1.20G lateral with spikes up to 1.30G
Will be even better after final tuning of suspension, not to mention 100kg less wieght and 550bhp engine I love my FD, Not sure if they are the best handling car but on a race track they are the quickest mildly tuned car by a long way out of the common cars that come from japan. Given their age as well they are well ahead of their time.
Will be even better after final tuning of suspension, not to mention 100kg less wieght and 550bhp engine
I love my FD, Not sure if they are the best handling car but on a race track they are the quickest mildly tuned car by a long way out of the common cars that come from japan. Given their age as well they are well ahead of their time.nice effin FD!
12-10-06, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RICE RACING
My RICESP (mildly tuned original 1 of 25 SP's) corners @ 1.20G lateral with spikes up to 1.30G
Will be even better after final tuning of suspension, not to mention 100kg less wieght and 550bhp engine I love my FD, Not sure if they are the best handling car but on a race track they are the quickest mildly tuned car by a long way out of the common cars that come from japan. Given their age as well they are well ahead of their time.
Will be even better after final tuning of suspension, not to mention 100kg less wieght and 550bhp engine
I love my FD, Not sure if they are the best handling car but on a race track they are the quickest mildly tuned car by a long way out of the common cars that come from japan. Given their age as well they are well ahead of their time.
12-11-06, 01:25 AM
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No it's not Turbo'd
The RX-8 vs FD video you remember I saw at Sevenstock 6 I believe when they (Mazda) unveiled the RX-8 to us before detroit. They showed an FD and 8 at a undisclosed road couse, and showed the RX-8 Take off from the Spirit-R that was following it, but they hadn't disclosed the weight and Engine HP #'s so no-one called BS !
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12-11-06, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RICE RACING
My RICESP (mildly tuned original 1 of 25 SP's) corners @ 1.20G lateral with spikes up to 1.30G
Will be even better after final tuning of suspension, not to mention 100kg less wieght and 550bhp engine I love my FD, Not sure if they are the best handling car but on a race track they are the quickest mildly tuned car by a long way out of the common cars that come from japan. Given their age as well they are well ahead of their time.
Will be even better after final tuning of suspension, not to mention 100kg less wieght and 550bhp engine
I love my FD, Not sure if they are the best handling car but on a race track they are the quickest mildly tuned car by a long way out of the common cars that come from japan. Given their age as well they are well ahead of their time.nice!!!
12-11-06, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin T. Wyum
Are you suggesting the higher mass causing slightly higher friction in the wheel bearings and tires is going to offset the additional force needed to accelerate (negative) the much heavier car to a stop? Extremely unlikely unless they're some of the worst bearings out there. I'd guess the Supra just has a better ABS unit than the RX7.
12-11-06, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DCrosby
The RX-8 vs FD video you remember I saw at Sevenstock 6 I believe when they (Mazda) unveiled the RX-8 to us before detroit. They showed an FD and 8 at a undisclosed road couse, and showed the RX-8 Take off from the Spirit-R that was following it, but they hadn't disclosed the weight and Engine HP #'s so no-one called BS !
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12-11-06, 02:09 AM
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I have a 2000 S2000 and a single turbo FD. One of the big reasons that I bought the S2K was because it has comparable handling to my FD but in a daily driver format The S2K is no joke handling-wise, even with the puny stock 205 and 225 tires. (upgraded on later models)
The S2K is no joke handling-wise, even with the puny stock 205 and 225 tires. (upgraded on later models)
12-11-06, 03:37 AM
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This is an argument no-one will win
I think if you're trying to compare cars you should be comparing the latest 2001 (?) FDs from Japan with things like the S2000. Yes it's still an old design but it's been updated. Be interesting to see what they're like.
I think if you're trying to compare cars you should be comparing the latest 2001 (?) FDs from Japan with things like the S2000. Yes it's still an old design but it's been updated. Be interesting to see what they're like.
12-11-06, 03:48 AM
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I read through a couple of pages and didn't see anyone bring it up, but didn't feel like reading through all of the pages.
How does a FD's handling compare to that of a NSX? I have always heard about how well the NSX's handle and how well balanced they are. Anyone know?
Sorry if this is a re-post.
How does a FD's handling compare to that of a NSX? I have always heard about how well the NSX's handle and how well balanced they are. Anyone know?
Sorry if this is a re-post.
12-11-06, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Football22
I read through a couple of pages and didn't see anyone bring it up, but didn't feel like reading through all of the pages.
How does a FD's handling compare to that of a NSX? I have always heard about how well the NSX's handle and how well balanced they are. Anyone know?
Sorry if this is a re-post.
How does a FD's handling compare to that of a NSX? I have always heard about how well the NSX's handle and how well balanced they are. Anyone know?
Sorry if this is a re-post.
The FD in a 5 way car battle at Tksuba smashs the NSX, GTR, EVO, WRX & others in stock form....... it is the don mega car from Japan. Even here in production car racing (13 years after its peak) it can still win outright against all others even though it is severly restricted (low boost rules against it). They are a sick car.
After driving a customers Fd on a race track I sold all my old Mazda **** and set about buying my own rx7, it was that good.
With better coil overs, nice tires & some tuning you have a supercar killer !
12-11-06, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RICE RACING
It ownes the NSX
The FD in a 5 way car battle at Tksuba smashs the NSX, GTR, EVO, WRX & others in stock form....... it is the don mega car from Japan. Even here in production car racing (13 years after its peak) it can still win outright against all others even though it is severly restricted (low boost rules against it). They are a sick car.
After driving a customers Fd on a race track I sold all my old Mazda **** and set about buying my own rx7, it was that good.
With better coil overs, nice tires & some tuning you have a supercar killer !
The FD in a 5 way car battle at Tksuba smashs the NSX, GTR, EVO, WRX & others in stock form....... it is the don mega car from Japan. Even here in production car racing (13 years after its peak) it can still win outright against all others even though it is severly restricted (low boost rules against it). They are a sick car.
After driving a customers Fd on a race track I sold all my old Mazda **** and set about buying my own rx7, it was that good.
With better coil overs, nice tires & some tuning you have a supercar killer !
usually to a nsx or skyline
12-12-06, 04:35 AM
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If the FD were made today, i think it would be a whole different story.
But that could be said about ANY car.
the only way to compare, is to compare the same time frames. same technology, same playing field. in it's day, the FD was the route to supercar feel without the supercar deep pockets pre-requisites
Otherwise, this whole mentality of "The 7 can never lose" is just plain silly. you own a car for its soul, not because it will "beat" anything else made, or that will ever be made.
Go drive the soul of a car. spend some quality time with your car. make it a part of your family (this WILL create some drama, but it's worth it)/ When you go for drives, drive alone. Go to secluded streets and take everything slow. Very slow. So slow and deliberate, that it makes you feel like you are babying her. Feel how she responds. Love how she behaves. and then after a half hour of this.. or more: Hammer down full throttle and carve through some twisties. And afterwards... just TRY to wipe that grin off of your face. I'll bet your wife/gf/fiance will think you just cheated on her. And I can guarantee she will be jealous of the way you look at your baby after that. One hour of your life.... it's all she is asking for. She calling for you. She wants you to tame her. She wants you to care for her. She wants you to unleash her to your ultimate experience! Go. Discover what makes her perfect... Experience her Essence. Feel her Soul.
Just try it. trust me on this one. It is a bonding experience.
or maybe I just get emotionally attached to my RX7 more than most? Am I weird? Hmmm....
But that could be said about ANY car.
the only way to compare, is to compare the same time frames. same technology, same playing field. in it's day, the FD was the route to supercar feel without the supercar deep pockets pre-requisites
Otherwise, this whole mentality of "The 7 can never lose" is just plain silly. you own a car for its soul, not because it will "beat" anything else made, or that will ever be made.
Go drive the soul of a car. spend some quality time with your car. make it a part of your family (this WILL create some drama, but it's worth it)/ When you go for drives, drive alone. Go to secluded streets and take everything slow. Very slow. So slow and deliberate, that it makes you feel like you are babying her. Feel how she responds. Love how she behaves. and then after a half hour of this.. or more: Hammer down full throttle and carve through some twisties. And afterwards... just TRY to wipe that grin off of your face. I'll bet your wife/gf/fiance will think you just cheated on her. And I can guarantee she will be jealous of the way you look at your baby after that. One hour of your life.... it's all she is asking for. She calling for you. She wants you to tame her. She wants you to care for her. She wants you to unleash her to your ultimate experience! Go. Discover what makes her perfect... Experience her Essence. Feel her Soul.
Just try it. trust me on this one. It is a bonding experience.
or maybe I just get emotionally attached to my RX7 more than most? Am I weird? Hmmm....
Last edited by Monkman33; 12-12-06 at 04:41 AM.
12-12-06, 10:30 AM
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No it's not Turbo'd
Well, some people like to tear out the Soul and replace it with a Demon !
And some people think it ruins the car... Some people thought the earth was flat too...
And some people think it ruins the car... Some people thought the earth was flat too...
12-12-06, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 1.3 liter V8 eater
It depends on the model FD though, an R1 handles better than a Touring.
Does the R1 have some magical benefit that the Touring will never be able to achieve at the performance level if identically modified across all aspects?
12-12-06, 12:13 PM
#100
Originally Posted by Monkman33
........ One hour of your life.... it's all she is asking for. She calling for you. She wants you to tame her. She wants you to care for her. She wants you to unleash her to your ultimate experience! Go. Discover what makes her perfect... Experience her Essence. Feel her Soul. ......... Am I weird? Hmmm....
Personally I'm not quite the romantic. It's a great car, but it's a thing. Personal taste and budget dictate if you bought an FD. Skill, ego and budget dictate how long you keep it.
Originally Posted by CYD
....Does the R1 have some magical benefit that the Touring will never be able to achieve at the performance level if identically modified across all aspects?