build my 87 or go 3d gen twin turbo
build my 87 or go 3d gen twin turbo
at the moment i have a 87 stock rx7 with 165k on the motor body. The bodys in good shape and interior isnt bad ethier. I was looking at doing a turbo ll motorswap. My buddy started in on that i should just save the cash and get a twin turbo 3d gen.
I love the loom of the 3d gen, but the horror stories some people have are a slight deterent. I am open to all recamendations. Looking for some pros and cons, some personal experiences, and such things like that
Thanks,
Ron
I love the loom of the 3d gen, but the horror stories some people have are a slight deterent. I am open to all recamendations. Looking for some pros and cons, some personal experiences, and such things like that
Thanks,
Ron
maintence isnt a problem, i have full use of my girlfriends brothers garage(hes a mechanic). Ive done alot of work on my rx7 over the last year. Did a partial rebuild(new seals and i polished the rotors)mostly just to see inside of the motor
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My biggest concern is will the preformance be much greater than my fc. The fc is a heavy car, while the fd are a good bit lighter. I am still planning on keeping my 87 as a daily driver, and have the fd as a weekend car
. My biggest concern is will the preformance be much greater than my fc. The fc is a heavy car, while the fd are a good bit lighter. I am still planning on keeping my 87 as a daily driver, and have the fd as a weekend car
According to this website a stock TII weighs 2845lbs.
http://www.rx7.org/public/rx7specs.html
a stock third gen is 2826lbs... not much of a difference really if you are comparing weight.
http://www.rx7.org/public/rx7specs.html
a stock third gen is 2826lbs... not much of a difference really if you are comparing weight.
Originally posted by Quiksilver540
According to this website a stock TII weighs 2845lbs.
http://www.rx7.org/public/rx7specs.html
a stock third gen is 2826lbs... not much of a difference really if you are comparing weight.
According to this website a stock TII weighs 2845lbs.
http://www.rx7.org/public/rx7specs.html
a stock third gen is 2826lbs... not much of a difference really if you are comparing weight.
Swear, I'm not trying to hijack. I weighed my fd at a local weigh station and it only weighed 2760 with me not in drivers seat. Oh and no spare tire was in the trunk.
*93 touring full interior*
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I think it depends on how much you like the looks and handling of each.
I've had a modded TII (sold it), and I also have my single turbo FD now. For about 2 years, I had both cars and drove both all the time....
I think the FD looks way better and since it was 6 years newer, the paint and interior were a lot nicer too. Which look do you prefer? Do you mind keeping up with aging plastic, etc?
The FD handled a lot better than the TII, but the TII was still a decent handler... just not "FD class".
Performance-wise, there is really no difference when you get down to it.... with equal levels of mods (like a single turbo for instance), the cars are pretty close in performance and handling.
Since you seem to be talking about a TII motor swap (implying that it will remain fairly close to stock with just some bolt ons) vs a twin turbo with maybe a few reliability mods... I'd say the FD is going to be a bit faster, look better, and handle better... I'd say go with a -quality- used FD.
I've had a modded TII (sold it), and I also have my single turbo FD now. For about 2 years, I had both cars and drove both all the time....
I think the FD looks way better and since it was 6 years newer, the paint and interior were a lot nicer too. Which look do you prefer? Do you mind keeping up with aging plastic, etc?
The FD handled a lot better than the TII, but the TII was still a decent handler... just not "FD class".
Performance-wise, there is really no difference when you get down to it.... with equal levels of mods (like a single turbo for instance), the cars are pretty close in performance and handling.
Since you seem to be talking about a TII motor swap (implying that it will remain fairly close to stock with just some bolt ons) vs a twin turbo with maybe a few reliability mods... I'd say the FD is going to be a bit faster, look better, and handle better... I'd say go with a -quality- used FD.
wargasm: you pretty much hit on what i was thinking, I do love the style of the fd and the newer technology is also a nice thing.
The swap i was planning was just gonna be a full TII drivetrain and maybe a cone filter and a fmic. But it still would be a almost 18 year old car. Im planning now on just maintaining it and using it as a good daily driver.
I also like the fact that there is a much larger aftermarket for fd's then there is for fc's wich is another good mark in my book.
Thank you for all the good info i apreciate it greatly
The swap i was planning was just gonna be a full TII drivetrain and maybe a cone filter and a fmic. But it still would be a almost 18 year old car. Im planning now on just maintaining it and using it as a good daily driver.
I also like the fact that there is a much larger aftermarket for fd's then there is for fc's wich is another good mark in my book.
Thank you for all the good info i apreciate it greatly
FDs are quite a bit nicer in my opinion, but parts are more expensive, harder to come by, and you will need more of them. If you have the time/money to do it, get the fd, but if you arent sure, then I would recommend doing the TII swap until you are sure that you are prepared for the third gen.
The FD has a better suspension design, double control arms front and rear vs struts and trailing arms for the FC. The FD is 5" wider than a FC. Mod for mod there is no way a FC will ever handle like a FD. The FD has ABS standard which is a bonus for the street and auto-x.
Straight line performance isn't much different with mods because they can be modded the same amount. The FC is faster for the $$.
Looks, there is no comparison... FD hands down. Lower hood, wider body, room for serious tires, etc.
Straight line performance isn't much different with mods because they can be modded the same amount. The FC is faster for the $$.
Looks, there is no comparison... FD hands down. Lower hood, wider body, room for serious tires, etc.
Im gonna start looking for one probally around september, That way i can get a good down payment on one.
One last question how do tese cars handle in the snow compared to the fc. I throw a couple bags of sand in my fc and that thing handles like a bear
One last question how do tese cars handle in the snow compared to the fc. I throw a couple bags of sand in my fc and that thing handles like a bear
if i had to do it all over again...
i would be owning a very sweet STI right now.
putting in a new engine, turbos etc. sound fun... til the reality having to pay for it in one huge lump sum kicks in.
i would be owning a very sweet STI right now.
putting in a new engine, turbos etc. sound fun... til the reality having to pay for it in one huge lump sum kicks in.
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