ppritchard

I was using a stethescope to try and isolate a noise around the pulleys, bust have somehow hit or shorted this thing out. It's broken open, looks like a sensor. Car won't start now, turns over but that's it.

What is the broken piece behind the pulley and how hard is it to replace.

As always, thanks for the help.

Rocketeerbandit

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Is that the wiring to the crank sensor?

RotaryEvolution

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looks like the crank sensor but the wiring looks like the oil metering pump electrical. could have damaged both i guess.

ppritchard

FSM says that it's the crank position sensor(s).

The magnet looking end looks to be broken off exposing the wiring.

Can they be replaced without removing the pulley?

Thanks for any input
Sorry the picture doesn't show it more clearly.

TomU

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How in the hell did you do that

7krayziboi

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Stop driving the car until you have fix that.
Would be my advice .

ppritchard

Stupdly!
Was using a metal stethescope probe to look for a noise by the pulleys. The probe must have hit the spinning sensor plate and banged into the crank sensor, shearing it off. It is the top sensor, so the NW-signal.

You can see it on it's side now that I've moved the intake piping.

H_M

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Remove intercooler
Remove ast
Remove air box
Loosen alternator
Loosen air pump
Remove belt
Remove e-shaft pulleys (4 bolts)
Remove cas bracket (2 nuts)
Replace cas

Should take about an hour to remove everything and the reinstall it.

RotaryEvolution

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there is no wiring inside the crank sensor, and the wiring from the broken sensor still is attached. so where is that wire in the very first picture from? or was that picture taken from a different car?

it's confusing, because there is discrepancies in your pictures.

ppritchard

Thanks. Have a replacement on the way.

Just hope nothing else was damaged when the sensor broke. Engine stopped immediately, so hopefully it's all good.

ppritchard

Good Catch Lake Wales -- the first pic was a "before" just to show the sensors. You were correct in identifying the OMP wires hanging loose. They (OMP) were cut by a broken belt a couple of years ago when that pic was taken. I should have noted that. Thanks for the catch.

Nobody seems to think the sensor can be replaced without removing the pulley, but I was sure I'd seen someone do it in a long ago post.

RotaryEvolution

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it's not difficult to remove the pulley and tone wheel, i doubt you could get the sensors in out without possibly mangling something else.

cr-rex

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It is 100% possible to replace the cas without removing the pulley. There is absolutely no need or reason to remove the pulley. They are very easily accessible with a 10mm wrench. You do not need to remove the pulley. I'm speaking from experience.

ppritchard

Thanks guys.

not my pic, but sure looks like it could be slid away from the wheel and pulley out lifted out, but I know there's real stuff like the alternator in the area.

cr-rex

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I'm trying to tell you, you only need a 10mm wrench and you can remove both the sensors. You don't need to remove anything else other than the obvious stuff. It's very easily accessible. Once you break the torque of the nuts, you can spin them off with your fingers and the bracket and sensors will come right out. If you remove the pulley which requires you to remove both your drive belts then you're just making more work for yourself.

ppritchard

CR-rex,

Not looking for any extra work. I will definitely try to remove and replace as you suggest, thanks for the input.

bpdchief

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OP says that the car wont start and then this guys says this:

Stop driving the car until you have fix that.
Would be my advice .

Did he seriously write that? LOL.

DaleClark

iTrader: (55)

Absolute worst case you'd have to remove the pullies from the crank hub. This is an easy operation, 4 10mm bolts and it's off. The 19mm hub bolt is what you don't want to get into, that is ON THERE and takes a wrestling match to remove.

Also, be certain the plugs for the 2 sensors are plugged in properly. White plug goes on the left, gray on the right. If you swap them the car won't run or will be really weird.

Dale

ppritchard

Thanks.

Luckily, the engine wiring harness was replaced at the last rebuild so at least I won't have
to worry with those crispy connections.

7krayziboi

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Why don't you keep searching for your steering wheel that doesn't exist ! LOL

bpdchief

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I will. And when I find it, everyone is going to want one.