BNR twins installed at KDR yesterday
08-14-02, 02:06 AM
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BNR twins installed at KDR yesterday
Finally got these bad boys put in yesterday. I babied them all the way home with no boost (sucked
) and figure to put on around 600-700 miles before my dyno date on September 24th. One nice thing Dave noticed about the turbos were when you started the car after the install, there wasn't a typical puff of black smoke like normal rebuilds (sealed tightly) So far, so good. Got them set up as full non-sequential. Haven't really tested out the response much but seemed a little more responsive than my stockers with a faulty primary. The wheels looked about the same size as the M2 twins he had on a car up there. Overheard a conversation between Dave and artguy, sounds like he's figuring out those screwed up maps of his from XS. It was 102 degrees up there! he was dynoing a T78 FD at 14 lbs and it still pulled 380 rwhp with the room temps over 115 degrees. His air temps after a few runs were over 180 degrees! If he would have waited for a 60-70 degree day he could have pulled down 420 or so at the same exact settings. Can't wait for summer to be over
) and figure to put on around 600-700 miles before my dyno date on September 24th. One nice thing Dave noticed about the turbos were when you started the car after the install, there wasn't a typical puff of black smoke like normal rebuilds (sealed tightly) So far, so good. Got them set up as full non-sequential. Haven't really tested out the response much but seemed a little more responsive than my stockers with a faulty primary. The wheels looked about the same size as the M2 twins he had on a car up there. Overheard a conversation between Dave and artguy, sounds like he's figuring out those screwed up maps of his from XS. It was 102 degrees up there! he was dynoing a T78 FD at 14 lbs and it still pulled 380 rwhp with the room temps over 115 degrees. His air temps after a few runs were over 180 degrees! If he would have waited for a 60-70 degree day he could have pulled down 420 or so at the same exact settings. Can't wait for summer to be over
08-14-02, 07:10 AM
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How long is their warranty ? Also, do they rebuild your original turbo or do they have some on hand and keep yours ? If so, what does your manifold look like ?
08-14-02, 08:26 AM
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Sounds good, but why arn't you boosting the turbo's?? I understand 10lbs if you were on a new motor, but there is no break in on turbo's.......Im sure you know this, right?
08-14-02, 10:56 AM
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I'm also looking to get replacement twins for right now. I'm interested to see how they work for you, as ttpowerd recommended these turbos instead of the Pettit turbos.
Good luck - keep us posted
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Good luck - keep us posted
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Re: BNR twins installed at KDR yesterday
Originally posted by kwikrx7
Finally got these bad boys put in yesterday. I babied them all the way home with no boost (sucked ) and figure to put on around 600-700 miles before my dyno date on September 24th. One nice thing Dave noticed about the turbos were when you started the car after the install, there wasn't a typical puff of black smoke like normal rebuilds (sealed tightly) So far, so good. Got them set up as full non-sequential. Haven't really tested out the response much but seemed a little more responsive than my stockers with a faulty primary. The wheels looked about the same size as the M2 twins he had on a car up there. Overheard a conversation between Dave and artguy, sounds like he's figuring out those screwed up maps of his from XS. It was 102 degrees up there! he was dynoing a T78 FD at 14 lbs and it still pulled 380 rwhp with the room temps over 115 degrees. His air temps after a few runs were over 180 degrees! If he would have waited for a 60-70 degree day he could have pulled down 420 or so at the same exact settings. Can't wait for summer to be over
Finally got these bad boys put in yesterday. I babied them all the way home with no boost (sucked
) and figure to put on around 600-700 miles before my dyno date on September 24th. One nice thing Dave noticed about the turbos were when you started the car after the install, there wasn't a typical puff of black smoke like normal rebuilds (sealed tightly) So far, so good. Got them set up as full non-sequential. Haven't really tested out the response much but seemed a little more responsive than my stockers with a faulty primary. The wheels looked about the same size as the M2 twins he had on a car up there. Overheard a conversation between Dave and artguy, sounds like he's figuring out those screwed up maps of his from XS. It was 102 degrees up there! he was dynoing a T78 FD at 14 lbs and it still pulled 380 rwhp with the room temps over 115 degrees. His air temps after a few runs were over 180 degrees! If he would have waited for a 60-70 degree day he could have pulled down 420 or so at the same exact settings. Can't wait for summer to be over
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Al900rr - which car were you picking up? I saw you guys stop when I was outside with Dave.
Ernie, that could somewhat be debated as far as running the turbos hard the first day you install them. I want the carbon seals to seal properly and break the bearings in somewhat before I start to push them a little. Bryan at BNR told me to take it easy on them right off. I figure I'll do some pulls to like 4K rpms just to see where the how fast the boost comes on. I'll probably wait a few days since it's so dang hot here - about 100 degrees again today - not nice on turbos. I'm figuring it will run pretty much like a single turbo - like a T04S or T66 - hoping for full boost under 4K but these are big boys running parallel. If it absolutely ridiculous waiting for boost then I'll switch back to sequential - I think they'll run great - can't wait for the numbers.
badass7, Bryan gives a full 1 year/unlimited mileage warranty as long as you replace the oil lines. He sent me the paperwork and it was professional - no "handshake" or verbal warranty like some companies do. Manifold looked great. He rebuilds the core you send him. The turbos I pulled put of my car were immaculate. They look like they have 10K miles on them. They have a small rubbing in the primary but everything else looked great.
Ernie, that could somewhat be debated as far as running the turbos hard the first day you install them. I want the carbon seals to seal properly and break the bearings in somewhat before I start to push them a little. Bryan at BNR told me to take it easy on them right off. I figure I'll do some pulls to like 4K rpms just to see where the how fast the boost comes on. I'll probably wait a few days since it's so dang hot here - about 100 degrees again today - not nice on turbos. I'm figuring it will run pretty much like a single turbo - like a T04S or T66 - hoping for full boost under 4K but these are big boys running parallel. If it absolutely ridiculous waiting for boost then I'll switch back to sequential - I think they'll run great - can't wait for the numbers.
badass7, Bryan gives a full 1 year/unlimited mileage warranty as long as you replace the oil lines. He sent me the paperwork and it was professional - no "handshake" or verbal warranty like some companies do. Manifold looked great. He rebuilds the core you send him. The turbos I pulled put of my car were immaculate. They look like they have 10K miles on them. They have a small rubbing in the primary but everything else looked great.
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It was the car alittle further away from you on the left. The one with the East Bear kit. I didn't want to disturb you guys while you were talking. I was the chinese dude with the red hat.
08-15-02, 07:02 AM
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Funny, i thought you did have to break in turbos. On my last car, i installed a turbo system from bell engineering and they recommended a break in period. I could be wrong though.
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Originally posted by al900rr
It was the car alittle further away from you on the left. The one with the East Bear kit. I didn't want to disturb you guys while you were talking. I was the chinese dude with the red hat.
It was the car alittle further away from you on the left. The one with the East Bear kit. I didn't want to disturb you guys while you were talking. I was the chinese dude with the red hat.
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this is some stupid ****. yes you have to break in turbos. and how do you go about doing that? by boosting. you babied them home w/ no boost? wtf were you thinking kwik?
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No midpipes here, I like my hearing and want to keep it when I get older. Yeah, a couple more hp up high but even causes more lag down low and smells like a truck stop (I had a MP before)
I was thinking maybe I should take my car to PFS to get dynoed instead of KD - probably net about 50 more rwhp. Going for like 400 rwhp at 10 psi...lol j/k, just kidding Ryan. It was wet out tonight but and 90% humidity so I didn't want to push it too much. I had 5 psi by 3K rpms and it started to pull. Hopefully it will be dry tomorrow so I can do some runs
I was thinking maybe I should take my car to PFS to get dynoed instead of KD - probably net about 50 more rwhp. Going for like 400 rwhp at 10 psi...lol j/k, just kidding Ryan. It was wet out tonight but and 90% humidity so I didn't want to push it too much. I had 5 psi by 3K rpms and it started to pull. Hopefully it will be dry tomorrow so I can do some runs
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this is some stupid ****. yes you have to break in turbos. and how do you go about doing that? by boosting. you babied them home w/ no boost? wtf were you thinking kwik?
this is some stupid ****. yes you have to break in turbos. and how do you go about doing that? by boosting. you babied them home w/ no boost? wtf were you thinking kwik?
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Originally posted by fdracer
this is some stupid ****. yes you have to break in turbos. and how do you go about doing that? by boosting. you babied them home w/ no boost? wtf were you thinking kwik?
this is some stupid ****. yes you have to break in turbos. and how do you go about doing that? by boosting. you babied them home w/ no boost? wtf were you thinking kwik?
08-20-02, 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by fdracer
this is some stupid ****. yes you have to break in turbos. and how do you go about doing that? by boosting. you babied them home w/ no boost? wtf were you thinking kwik?
this is some stupid ****. yes you have to break in turbos. and how do you go about doing that? by boosting. you babied them home w/ no boost? wtf were you thinking kwik?
boost or no boost.... so how is boosting it different in breaking it in?
08-20-02, 02:53 PM
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when under boost you can be running as much as 80,000rpms - 150,000rpms depending on the turbo.
When your not under boost sure they spin but not very fast, there just isnt much strain on a turbo at idle versus full boost.
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When your not under boost sure they spin but not very fast, there just isnt much strain on a turbo at idle versus full boost.
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08-20-02, 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by kwikrx7
No midpipes here, I like my hearing and want to keep it when I get older. Yeah, a couple more hp up high but even causes more lag down low and smells like a truck stop (I had a MP before) I was thinking maybe I should take my car to PFS to get dynoed instead of KD - probably net about 50 more rwhp. Going for like 400 rwhp at 10 psi...lol j/k, just kidding Ryan. It was wet out tonight but and 90% humidity so I didn't want to push it too much. I had 5 psi by 3K rpms and it started to pull. Hopefully it will be dry tomorrow so I can do some runs
No midpipes here, I like my hearing and want to keep it when I get older. Yeah, a couple more hp up high but even causes more lag down low and smells like a truck stop (I had a MP before)
I was thinking maybe I should take my car to PFS to get dynoed instead of KD - probably net about 50 more rwhp. Going for like 400 rwhp at 10 psi...lol j/k, just kidding Ryan. It was wet out tonight but and 90% humidity so I didn't want to push it too much. I had 5 psi by 3K rpms and it started to pull. Hopefully it will be dry tomorrow so I can do some runs
But at least I backed it up with a Dyno,Video, and a timeslip. What more could you ask for?
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Tell me how like those BNR's and what stage did you get?
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Originally posted by kwikrx7
No midpipes here, I like my hearing and want to keep it when I get older. Yeah, a couple more hp up high but even causes more lag down low and smells like a truck stop (I had a MP before) I was thinking maybe I should take my car to PFS to get dynoed instead of KD - probably net about 50 more rwhp. Going for like 400 rwhp at 10 psi...lol j/k, just kidding Ryan. It was wet out tonight but and 90% humidity so I didn't want to push it too much. I had 5 psi by 3K rpms and it started to pull. Hopefully it will be dry tomorrow so I can do some runs
No midpipes here, I like my hearing and want to keep it when I get older. Yeah, a couple more hp up high but even causes more lag down low and smells like a truck stop (I had a MP before)
I was thinking maybe I should take my car to PFS to get dynoed instead of KD - probably net about 50 more rwhp. Going for like 400 rwhp at 10 psi...lol j/k, just kidding Ryan. It was wet out tonight but and 90% humidity so I didn't want to push it too much. I had 5 psi by 3K rpms and it started to pull. Hopefully it will be dry tomorrow so I can do some runs
midpipes are best mod ever, if you had one I can;t udnersatnd what you are syaing. The noise factor is of course another issue :O
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Barry,
Have you had the chance to rip on those turbos yet. I was wondering at what rpm's do you get full boost? I've been talking to Bryan about getting a set but I'd like more input on your's before I commit.
Thanks,
Andrew
Have you had the chance to rip on those turbos yet. I was wondering at what rpm's do you get full boost? I've been talking to Bryan about getting a set but I'd like more input on your's before I commit.
Thanks,
Andrew