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Old 01-29-05, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
He's what they call an outlier in the bell curve lol.
DAMN IT! how come noone else around here undestands this point.
Old 01-29-05, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AgentSpeed
"why did u buy them then? is your motor too fresh?"

I bought the stage 3's because apex seals were falling out of my stock turbos and besides that they had 86K on them when the motor popped.
My motor and stage 3's have about 2500 miles on them. I know I could have pushed it more but 375 is a huge increase from the old tired engine that I had. When the old engine popped it was making 260 to the wheels and that was after tuning. I think I'll be able to enjoy 375.
If you want to try a set at 20psi, have at it. I'm satisfied with 15psi!
fair enough.
Old 01-29-05, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gargamel
I don't think bnr's have been out long enough to say that you can run them at 20-22 psi. Actually, I've never heard of anyone running that much boost through them.

Boostn7 ran his stock twins at 19psi all day-every day with no problems.

No problems? HAHA!
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I talked to Roy this evening, he said he would attempt to ride down in the a.m. Did not want to drive down in the dark tonight....I really hope Kahn is still able tomorrow to do his 7. It sucks having one chance a year to have him tune..
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Originally Posted by TT_Rex_7
We've heard it directly from him.

-Alex
Pretty much. I think it's common knowledge on the forum that he went through several sets...
Old 01-29-05, 10:11 PM
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I say up the boost only b/c your taking the hit for low comp.

I would go atleast 17 on low comp. That still should be very reliable.
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I've never heard anything about John going through multiple set of twins. If I haven't heard it, then it must be false
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Originally Posted by Gargamel
I've never heard anything about John going through multiple set of twins. If I haven't heard it, then it must be false
come on....u hoenstly think the stockers are reliable at 19psi?
Old 01-29-05, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
come on....u hoenstly think the stockers are reliable at 19psi?
Are the stockers the anti-Christ to you?! lol!

-Alex
Old 01-29-05, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TT_Rex_7
Are the stockers the anti-Christ to you?! lol!

-Alex
not sure what u mean...but i like the stockers. Gonna push them.
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Originally Posted by matty
not sure what u mean...but i like the stockers. Gonna push them.
Just another way of asking if you have something against the stockers lol.

-Alex
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Originally Posted by matty
come on....u hoenstly think the stockers are reliable at 19psi?
What?
Old 01-29-05, 10:36 PM
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agent speed...good numbers actually. i will say ur car is setup nicely with the low compression rotors and bnrs ...match made in heaven. That works together nicely now that i think about it. Now get those mothers up to 18-19psi.
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Originally Posted by TT_Rex_7
Just another way of asking if you have something against the stockers lol.

-Alex
i run the stockers. i love the sequantial setup. MY car is extremely repsonsive. i want more power though. But not gonna upgrade until my twins **** the bed. which may come soon as i plan to turn up the boost this spring when the car comes back out.

the bnrs are a nice setup..juts not sure if its worth spending another $1000 to go single. Still waiting for 18-19psi sheets.
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Originally Posted by Gargamel
I've never heard anything about John going through multiple set of twins. If I haven't heard it, then it must be false
LOL I like that

Originally Posted by matty
come on....u hoenstly think the stockers are reliable at 19psi?
I don't think ANYONE claims they are. At 18psi, they're already so far out of their efficiency range that you're pretty much just blowing hot air (no pun intended)
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nice #'s........
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I think people are forgetting these numbers are on low compression rotors. It's safe to say, they would be higher at 15psi if FD rotors were used.

It's a nice, flat curve though
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Originally Posted by matty
DAMN IT! how come noone else around here undestands this point.
because they havent read that book.
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Congrats! nice numbers!
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Originally Posted by Mark'sMazda
I think people are forgetting these numbers are on low compression rotors. It's safe to say, they would be higher at 15psi if FD rotors were used.

It's a nice, flat curve though
To a certain point high comp rotors make more power than low comp at same boost levels.

In this case I agree, it would put more power down with high comp.
Old 01-30-05, 07:54 AM
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Heath call Bryan and ask him what he end'd of making
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"They're made for high boost" and yet nobody runs them.

Most of those BNR guys are running 15s, and with extensively ported motor, "mucho overlap" and what not, and, under 400 rwhp. Buy a single and cut the crap...


Nonetheless, sweet numbers.
congratulations AgentSpeed

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Old 01-30-05, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 20B 3rd Gen
Heath call Bryan and ask him what he end'd of making
Yeah I talked to him last night after I got in. He told me I no longer made the most power for the day... Oh well, I'm satisfied with my numbers.
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I know everybody wanted higher boost numbers so sorry. Maybe Rich will post a higher boost dyno sheet. I told Steve that I wanted a good driveability tune and a safe one. I also said that I'd sacrifice 10-15rwhp for more of a safety factor. He did a great job and gave me exactly what I wanted.
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What are the benifits of the low compression rotors over stockers? Not that im a dumb ***, but this is the first i have read about them.....lol


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