Originally Posted by SPOautos

But at what point does it go from being "hype" to being real? The ONLY thing people talk about are real and proven numbers, whats hype about that. Having a dyno sheet then having track numbers to back it up is factual, its real and all the numbers jive. Fact is like Artguy said, its difficult to get everything together and running right. Even when people get good dyno numbers half the time its short lived before they start to have problems and they never get track times out of it. Do a post in the single turbo section and find out how many 3rd gens on the forum have trapped 125 or better on pump gas....you know what your gong to find? Barely any at all, matter of fact I think there are only about 5 and 3 of those people (including myself) had some form of stock twins. What does that say about singles? Does that mean that to BNR upgrades are better than all of those singles that no one has track numbers on cause they cant back thier stuff up and they are all hype? NO, of course not...it just means its real rare for someone to get thier car in the condition that it needs to be in to get good dyno number AND track numbers to back it up. It has nothing to do with BNR twins, there are very few people that have good high hp dyno numbers and track numbers period...no matter what turbos are on thier car.

And for the record I wasnt happy with 300-350rwhp....I was there years ago. My next goal is 130+mph traps on pump gas....and yea I'll still drive it to work all the time just like I did in the past.

STEPHEN

Originally Posted by KaiFD3S

hey Goodfella, do you think that those bnr's that you have will last preety long, let's say if you keep it at 17 lbs of boost..

Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S

Sure, without a doubt. These new BNRs are head and shoulders above the old style, and I am not knocking the old ones either. These new ones have been worry free for me thus far. Not one drop of oil, no oil smoke, boost every time.

at 17 psi on pump gas over a period of time it is not the BNRs I worry about....it's the quality of the gas and the chance of detonation. I am prolly going to run 15 more often than not.

Rich