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Old Aug 16, 2022 | 12:44 AM
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A bit of mystery for people with Euro Spec FD

I have been hit with a motor vehicle examination notice a few weeks back... all is sorted now... but its kind of mystery question.

One item they deemed non compliant are my LED headlights... yes... it's stupid... they rather have you running around with old non as bright halogen bulbs...

Comments on the item was "Led headlights onto a unit without an "E" Mark." Upon searching it's a mark on some European headlights..

Is there such a mark on Euro spec FD? I know it's a very dumb one but I rather have it done they way they want it so I don't have to get towed again for this or switch back and forth next time.
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Old Aug 16, 2022 | 02:37 AM
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The "E" mark denotes compliance with ECE Lighting regulations, similar to how the DOT mark shows compliance here in the US. One thing to note is that there will be a number next to the E mark that designates what country it is intended for, depending on what side of the road is being driven on. In this manner, Germany will be different then the UK. If memory serves, European FDs are Left-hand drive like the North American ones. UK-specific ones are Right-hand drive like Japan and Australia.

E1 is Germany, E2 is France, E11 is UK and so on.

Here is some info on it:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/e-mar...lly-****-2000-
HeadlightConversions.com - E-Marking

I've had Japanese market lights that were marked E11 (UK). They were OE Mitsubishi for a Mirage I had years ago.

Bottom line is every Euro-spec FD will have ECE compliant lights from the factory. Most likely from Koito.
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Old Aug 16, 2022 | 02:57 AM
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Thanks a lot for your reply... it seems that those E marked headlights does exist... and there was one post about them around 2003-2004... and could be ordered back then.. but not anymore it seems...
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Old Aug 16, 2022 | 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Vspec2RX7
Is there such a mark on Euro spec FD? I know it's a very dumb one but I rather have it done they way they want it so I don't have to get towed again for this or switch back and forth next time.
Yes, there are. But i think the chances of finding a genuine Europ-spec headlamp unless you have one already is zero. There was made 1122 or so e-spec cars in total, and most cars that are now in europe are US/JDM imports.

One option is if Mazda has some in stock
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Old Aug 16, 2022 | 04:40 AM
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One of the guys here (DaiOni) still living in Japan I believe, brought in his personal import FD more than a decade ago, his compliance engineer wanted E marked headlights - japanese stockers didn't have that marking. Not sure if changed now - seems to be an import free for all these days.
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USDM cars are left hand drive (of course) and so the headlights were designed for left side of the road driving.

It would be a shame if USDM lights would not meet the euro-spec.

Maybe track down other owners of euro-spec FD and see if they have any spares.

It seems there was a pocket of euro-spec FD originally sold into Greece.

Maybe someone would lend you a set until you can hunt down a pair of your own.

There is a guy based in Greece that is a regular seller on Ebay , and sometimes he offers euro-spec parts.

There is also that unique headlight leveler switch for some euro-spec cars.

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Old Aug 19, 2022 | 12:41 PM
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Do you need Left or Right-hand Drive headlights? A quick jaunt on Ebay Germany produced some RHD ones in the UK for 63 euro a piece, although I could not see a distinct E mark on them. The seller's other offerings include first gen lights with a visible E2 mark, might be worth asking about.
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Old Aug 20, 2022 | 12:56 AM
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I spoke with a member based in Norway. He has the "E" LHD headlights. However, Norway has relaxed their rules and allows USDM LHD headlights.

RHD headlights are dangerous to use in LHD driving.

The highbeam shines up to the right and reflects all the roadsigns brightly back into your eyes.

The low beam shines accross the median line directly into the eyes of oncoming traffic.
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