sevenin7

I would like to buy a windband for my FD without move the stock 02 sensor . My car runs with PFC . For now i use only apexi exhaust meter . Propably its neccesary to make a new hole in downpipe ?
Opinions about the best windband in car !

sevenin7

i mean wide band , sorry.

reza

Check the engine management section. They cover TechEdge, FJO and misc other ones.
Wideband is not only for FD. Its basically an ECU tuning tool

skunks

motec only! pick up a M800/880 system and a ADL Data Logger as well

sevenin7

skunks do you know about the price for motec .

rotarypower101

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This is all you will need at a reasonable price and there are good results coming from people using it.
Issues with sensor becoming to hot have been resolved.
Do a little search on this setup and posts by Riceracing you will learn a lot quick about accuracy of this setup and other benefits that expensive brands still cannot offer yet

http://66.216.67.51/product.asp?0=208&1=361&3=788

skunks

its about 1.2-1.5k for the wideband (well worth it i think, why risk your 3-5k engine on a homebuilt wideband?) I like to ghetto rig some stuff myself but some things should be made by pros.

just remember, if the sensors for motec cost 300-400 bucks alone and the entire system for a cheapy wideband cost the same...

volley1

I thought you were joking skunks . Not too many people can justify spending 1000 bucks on a wideband.

skunks

yet so many people can justify spending over 2-3k on a turbo which will probally pop their engine...

rynberg

I'm one of those people who believe spending more to get a higher quality product is worth it, however, the TechEdge and FJO widebands have repeatedly been proven to be as accurate as they need to be. Why spend three times the price to get something that is 0.1 A/F points more accurate. If you are tuning that close to the edge, you deserve to lose a motor. Also, the FJO and Techedge 1.5 both utilize OEM quality wideband sensors that actually last a while in real world use......

SpoolinRX

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just get a volt meter ( a little LCD screen) and hook it into your O2 wire. Then all you need is to learn how to read what is rich and lean.

InsaneGideon

Please do a search on wideband O2 and learn about it before posting stuff like this. Otherwise, you'll be flamed to death.

Believe me, I'm doing you a favor by saying this.

OC94Rx7

Sotiris - Here is a thread I started about my wideband unit...has install photo's for you to see as well.

//Oliver

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=233801

jspecracer7

Yep, I've seen the differences between the $1000 widebands and the "homebuilt" 1.5 techedge...the a/f ratios were within +/- .1 a/f. so everything was tuned 11.0 for safety.

I run the techedge myself and have had no problems whatsoever.

volley1

True. And I am definitely not an expert in anyway, but from what I have read and seen, some of the cheaper, ~$400, widebands read a/f ratios extremely close to the more expensive ones. I just think there are places to try to save a few bucks when you can, and I think that the wideband setups are a place that you can do that.

XSTransAm

check out this one brand new

http://www.turboxs.com/txstuner.htm

skunks

idk, i have hear many horror stories about people putting them together wrong (guys with eletrical engineering degrees and cant seem to do it right) as well as the DIY premade ones not working quite right to trust them with my engine (no paying job=can afford a new enigne, especially when im in Hawaii. shipping alone=new engine).

rotarypower101

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haha you can use a gameboy to display and log

"Display port: for use with *Nintendo Game boy Advance (Game Boy and hardware not included). Use your current Game Boy Advance SP as a data logger and output display with graphing, gauges, and real time AFR readings. "

thats actualy kinda cool in a way, i can just see mario fighting to get closer to stoich without blowing a seal
Mario Tuner

XSTransAm

Its gonna be hard to leave it hooked to the wideband, I can just see myself now sitting at a light getting honked at cause i missed a jump


It also datalogs to computers and pda's, AND you can output it to your current ecu (provided it has an in) ANDDDDD you can input lots of other stuff to datalog, boost rpm ect. It is a really great box, I used it to tune my haltech...

skunks

you cant leave in a wideband, the sensor is only good for 500 hours on regular unleaded gas, 50 hours on leaded (which is what you are gonna be using if you even need a wideband in the first place)

XSTransAm

actually that is misinformation

"Bosch wideband oxygen sensors are designed for an operational life of 100,000 miles. Replacement should be needed only if the sensor has failed due to unusual operating conditions, physical damage, or contamination. Blowing a head gasket can allow silicon to enter the exhaust and contaminate the sensor. Oil burning can allow phosphorus to enter the exhaust and contaminate the sensor. If replacement is necessary, use the same type of wideband sensor as the original."


http://www.forparts.com/BoswidebandO2diag.htm


The tuner also has a diagnostic to let you know when the sensor is our of spec

jpandes

Since you have the PFC, buy a datalogit and a techedge WB02 2.0. It will cost you about 700.00 US for both units.

sevenin7

i think techedge is the best choice . who sells this WB ?

cewrx7r1

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The best was the question, this is what a group of us in Houston use for tuning along with a DATALOGIT.



http://www.mwignitions.com/uego.htm

rex u.k

Yes,jpandes is right, as for who sells techedge......the name says it.