which is the best exhaust...
which is the best exhaust...
for a stock 94 FD3S twin turbo. this may have already been asked but i searched for it and couldnt find anything. if you could send me a link to another thread that will answer my question, i would be greatly appreciated.
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RB Dual tip all the way. Trust me on this, it dosent look like a big cannon is coming out the back, its suttle yet screams when the throttle is open all the way.
Get an rb dual tip, with any kind of dp and a resonated MP = bad *** setup
quiet at idle, you can talk and dosent annoy you but when you want it to it will roar.
Trust me on this...
Get an rb dual tip, with any kind of dp and a resonated MP = bad *** setup
quiet at idle, you can talk and dosent annoy you but when you want it to it will roar.
Trust me on this...
Originally Posted by spoolage
RB Dual tip all the way. Trust me on this, it dosent look like a big cannon is coming out the back, its suttle yet screams when the throttle is open all the way.
Get an rb dual tip, with any kind of dp and a resonated MP = bad *** setup
quiet at idle, you can talk and dosent annoy you but when you want it to it will roar.
Trust me on this...
Get an rb dual tip, with any kind of dp and a resonated MP = bad *** setup
quiet at idle, you can talk and dosent annoy you but when you want it to it will roar.
Trust me on this...
everyone has their own opinion...right now im running a dp, mp, and an apexi gt spec exhaust and i just like the mean sound to it...like a monster waiting to explode when let loose...
Greddy Evo. It has a very deep tone without any drone or rasp. A friend of mine has had both the Evo and the Racing Beat on his car and prefers the Evo. Because the Evo is a straight through 3"+ ID muffler it should be less restrictive than the Racing Beat as well.
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dont listen to them!!!! only kidding, if you want something that sounds nice just to cruise in but will be noticed when on the move, do my setup... but there are millions of combinations you could do!!!
It all depends on what you want, Power or sound, the best performing one would the Apexi Gt spec, or EVO, Quietest would be the RB dual, Loudest is the n1 or gt, I personal liked the HSK dragger, nice deep note not to much drone when driving, I have the apexi gt now, i noticed a 4hp gain over the hsk dragger, untuned.
but i like my cars loud...lol
but i like my cars loud...lol
Originally Posted by MrRx
It all depends on what you want, Power or sound, the best performing one would the Apexi Gt spec, or EVO, Quietest would be the RB dual, Loudest is the n1 or gt, I personal liked the HSK dragger, nice deep note not to much drone when driving, I have the apexi gt now, i noticed a 4hp gain over the hsk dragger, untuned.
but i like my cars loud...lol
but i like my cars loud...lol
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i agree w all of the helpful comments above... a pretty good summary of your options.
that all said, the most important part of your exhaust is the downpipe. the stock oem turbo system is an eventual engine melter. 22 pounds of cast iron (one of the most heat retentive materials known to man) heated to 1000 degrees bolted to an aluminum (one of the most heat receptive materials and mild steel not too far behind aluminum---- engine block.
you need to minimize manifold heat and the downpipe may be the single (short of going single turbo) most effective mod. it needs to be stainless steel for max heat transfer.
howard coleman
that all said, the most important part of your exhaust is the downpipe. the stock oem turbo system is an eventual engine melter. 22 pounds of cast iron (one of the most heat retentive materials known to man) heated to 1000 degrees bolted to an aluminum (one of the most heat receptive materials and mild steel not too far behind aluminum---- engine block.
you need to minimize manifold heat and the downpipe may be the single (short of going single turbo) most effective mod. it needs to be stainless steel for max heat transfer.
howard coleman
very happy with my PFS catback. good choice if you dont wanna be too loud. RB sounds good too. i prefer a quieter system.
all the canister types sound the same to me. loud and raspy.
all the canister types sound the same to me. loud and raspy.
Originally Posted by washabi
for a stock 94 FD3S twin turbo. this may have already been asked but i searched for it and couldnt find anything.
You can really answer this question for yourself...
Most everything on the market is similar in performance-gain to within a couple HP... after that it's down to taste (with regard to looks and sound) and budget... there is no "best" for everyone.
Most everything on the market is similar in performance-gain to within a couple HP... after that it's down to taste (with regard to looks and sound) and budget... there is no "best" for everyone.
If you want a stock looking exhaust go with a RB dual tip or M2, something along those lines. If you want to get your car back to it's Japanese roots then go for a JIC, HKS, Apex, Greddy exhaust. Some people call them cannons or what have you, but the culture in Japan is very different then the culture here so some people bash what they don't understand. I personally prefer the canister style exhaust that is at a slight angle when comes out the rear bumper. But to each his own. If you plan on doing body work and crazy wheels then I wouldn't go with a rb dual...if you want to stick with the stock body lines and some nice racing wheels or stock wheels then the stock looking performance exhaust would probally be a better choice. It's as simple as that, try using a search and you will have enough to keep you reading for days. But you will be reading the same thing over and over.
The Ntech is a re-badged ATR cat-back - it's LOUD.
After being around a LOT of exhausts, there are a few conclusions.
First, most Japanese systems are VERY well built, fit very well, and sound good. They differ in loudness, of course.
Most American systems are REALLY loud. There's not as much as there used to be - some of the American made systems aren't around any more. ASP, TurboTuff, ATR, Pettit, PFS are all pretty loud and free-flowing systems. Many of the systems don't have the build quality the Japanese do - they will fit OK and not rust out or anything, but some use muffler clamps to hold together, etc.
For quiet really the only game in town is the Racing Beat dual tip. There's also some of the JASMA certified systems from Japan, but many of those aren't marketed in the US.
If you do get an N1-style muffler, I highly recommend getting one that you can install an optional silencer in. Loud exhaust is fun around town and everything, but on a long car trip (like to an RX-7 get-together) the drone will kill ya. Pop in the silencer, cruise in comfort, and pop it back out when you get there.
Personally, I love the N1 can style. I'm planning on the HKS Hiper myself - optional silencer, built really well, dirt cheap. I plan on keeping the main cat, which helps sound a LOT.
BTW, if you ever go non-sequential and remove the flapper door, the car gets REALLY loud. Loud like you can't comprehend.
Dale
After being around a LOT of exhausts, there are a few conclusions.
First, most Japanese systems are VERY well built, fit very well, and sound good. They differ in loudness, of course.
Most American systems are REALLY loud. There's not as much as there used to be - some of the American made systems aren't around any more. ASP, TurboTuff, ATR, Pettit, PFS are all pretty loud and free-flowing systems. Many of the systems don't have the build quality the Japanese do - they will fit OK and not rust out or anything, but some use muffler clamps to hold together, etc.
For quiet really the only game in town is the Racing Beat dual tip. There's also some of the JASMA certified systems from Japan, but many of those aren't marketed in the US.
If you do get an N1-style muffler, I highly recommend getting one that you can install an optional silencer in. Loud exhaust is fun around town and everything, but on a long car trip (like to an RX-7 get-together) the drone will kill ya. Pop in the silencer, cruise in comfort, and pop it back out when you get there.
Personally, I love the N1 can style. I'm planning on the HKS Hiper myself - optional silencer, built really well, dirt cheap. I plan on keeping the main cat, which helps sound a LOT.
BTW, if you ever go non-sequential and remove the flapper door, the car gets REALLY loud. Loud like you can't comprehend.
Dale
I like japanese exhaust the best the FD is a japanese car. I personally like Apexi GT- superior build qualitly and they look good, not to mention sound nice and improve power and turbo responce. I had it on my old FD. I've also heard a lot of good things about the GReddy Evo exhaust- never seen on an FD in person though so I can't offer an opinion on those, but I hear they're great. HKS is always a good bet too............
Dave
Dave
I wouldn't worry too much about which exhaust catback you get.. Make sure you get a downpipe.. My advice for a newbie is make sure you spend some time reading this forum before posting.. DON'T BE LAZY!! ALL your answers are on this forum..
I like my stainless dp, mp to the Titanium Greedy cat back.. Nice deep tone at idle and sounds like a animal once the throttle is open to scare all the hondas and 5.slows out the way..
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I bought a S/S MagnaFlow Performance 3" Dual Tip Muffler w/ 3.5" S/S Tips for about 1/4 the cost of other high performance back-cats. Looks and sounds pretty damn good.





