XL1022

Compare these three cars..

Toyota Supra 1994+ Twin Turbos..
1993-1999 Mazda RX-7 Twin Turbos
1991-1997 Nissan 300zx Twin Turbos..

Im thinking of buying one of these threes..

Peace..

widebody2

you're forgetting the vr4...what do you think people here are going to tell you....don't get the nissan for crying out loud. Drive an rx and a supra then decide. rx is more of a go cart feel. supra is a little better for modding..also costs a pretty penny more.

mightyslash

Search for Supra Vs. RX-7 on this forum or Supraforums, you'll find lots of ****.

Street King

Id say think this one out very carefully. Almost everyone on this forum has to pass this decision. Dont discount the 300zx. The engine bay is really tight but its not a bad car to mod. Just needs all the upgrades. If your going to do all the bolt-ons at least, dont discount the 300zx. The 3000gt 94+ does need to be in your list. 3000gt is a pig but damn if they dont give these cars a run for thier money.

kwikrx7

Even though I own an RX7 TT I'd have to say go with the Supra - you'll have far less headaches - Supras even though they cost more are easier to mod, their stock fuel system can handle about 500 rwhp, very inexpensive to get 400 rwhp out of it, and it's comfortable. I love my 7 but I've already put over $10K into the motor, and other mods and still have to replace the turbos. Yeah, it's one mean car but if you don't have a decent rotary mechanic around you, go for the Supra. 300Zs are nice but are a heavy car and you need a lot of hp to get those things going - they are expensive to mod also. Best thing to do is get a FD with a blown motor for less than 10K and build a monster - for the same price you could buy a stock Supra for you could build a 350-380 rwhp RX7 that will decimate 95% of the modded cars on the road.

P'cola FD

Hey, let's not forget about the Ligenfelter Twin Turbo ZO6. ha ha

user 84205

300ZX is a DOG ruff ruff bark bark haha what a POS

XL1022

How can you say the 300 zx is a piece of ****?...

user 84205

It is, motor design, turbos, weight, the whole car....

redrotorR1

300ZX TT's are pigs. Even modded, they're hard to put up against Supra's and RX-7's. Not very good handling cars either. Supra's can be made into good auto-x cars (17's, way stiff struts and springs, adjustable sway bars, strut tower braces ....); RX-7's are born road racers; 300ZX's take too much time and money to get the right performance; and the 3000GT VR-4's ... well, same story.

And if you haven't noticed lately, the prices on used 300ZX TT's are going up, with the release of the 350Z eminent. VR-4's ... what's up with that? Why do these owners think their cars are worth so much? When's the last time you paid more than $20K for a DSM product? Supra's tend to be overpriced as well (no thanks to the Fast and the Furious). But is $18-25K too much for something potentially mod-able up to 800HP? RX-7's ... reliability issues, but easily handled if you are religious about caring for it ... $10-15K for your peace of mind.

Thrifty speak, RX-7 with a reman engine in it already. Don't care about money, Supra. Then again, for $30K, you could get a C5 Vette and save up for some headers, exhaust, and intake ... and **** off some Z06 owners.

93TTRX7

get the rx-7...funnest to drive, has the best feel, and has the best agility. Supra costs too much and it's big and heavy...not as fun to drive

suprfast

hey P'Cola, you are forgetting about one TT car. can you say hennessey venom 800. holy **** that is bad ***. a twin turbo viper. just when you thought that a viper was bad *** they throw two mean *** turbos on it. price tag is only a mere(DR. EVIL) 1 million dollars.
kris

mightyslash

LOL, I like the way you talk. By the way, check out the twin turbo Lambo Diablo on Ebay auction right now.

happyham

are these just 3 cars that you want and happen to be tt, or is it really a decision that it has to be twin turbo? kind of odd that the main basis of buying a car is that it has to be twin turbo, considering that to get big hp out of these cars, you have to ditch the tt's and go single anyways (except the 300zx but i refuse to talk about that car). in the long run you will probably be paying about the same in the supra and rx7 since rx7 is high maintanence. in my opinion, both are equal in every category except that supra is more reliable and easier to mod. just buy a boost controller and set the boost to 60 psi and your good to go at 1000 hp for 100k+ miles, on pump gas too. the advantage of rx7 over supra is handling and weight.

jimlab

Too bad many of John Hennessey's customers are finding out the hard way that they have stock engine internals and that their cars don't make the numbers Hennessey claims for his Venom packages...

But while we're talking about the Venom 800, the price tag is about $120,000 on top of the Viper, which must be supplied by the customer. Not $1 Million.

DelSolVTEC

imo: if you have to decide the rx7 isnt for you. =] i once wanted a z but after carefull consideration of the pros and cons of each I have decided that rx7 is the only way to go for me

warsaw

I hate these "RX7 isn't for you" generalizations. Sounds like the damn "no soup for you" soup ****.

Everyone said an RX-7 wasn't for me and now they all want to BE me.

airborne

any update on real events? like lawsuits?

cavalon2001

I dissagree with this statement, I do not own a 300ZX but I've had the pleasure of driving one. It had the four wheel steering system and it turned a right angle at 60...it was like there wasn't a turn there.

Anyway, I just want to point out the 300ZX may not be the best car, but it is certainly one of them.

-Chris

Jodeny

iTrader: (3)

Hennessey was actually parting out peoples cars.....
J

redrotorR1

Check out a local auto-x and watch how 300Z's run through slaloms. They cannot carry as much speed through because they're either too heavy or not well-balanced. Most of the Z's here run in SM class ... yeah, they might be generating 400+HP, but they're oversteering queens. At 3700 lbs, Z's carry a lot of momentum into corners, making it difficult to navigate while carrying a lot of speed.

XL1022

Other than the weight.. Its still a nice car to have around if you just happen to have it sitting in your garage...

redrotorR1

True, true, true. One other thought ... it's the only one of the three mentioned that you can get in convertible form. T-tops suck, IMO.

Mr. Z

Maybe you should post your question on tt.net or supra forums, and see that these people who are dissing 300zx have no idea what they are talking about. I own a 300zx and would never trade it in for another car, so If you want to change your engine every 40,000 miles go with rx-7. If you want the real sports car, that has speed and looks buy yourself 300zx TT.


Peace

phatmonky

Talking JUST drag racing-

You can put a vr-4 into the 10's (10.82)

with 15G, 550cc injectors, 50shot n20, AFC, supra pump.

I'm sure the other guys will tell you all about the rest of the cars, but many people underestimate the vr-4's
Stock times for them are 13.3 (as low as 13.0) for USDM models that are 97+ Any year before that is the same with just lower boost from the factory so a boost controller will see the same times.

As for the guy who thinks they are too expensive! It was a 50k car new (even more for the spyders )
I don't think 50+% depreciation after 4-5 years is asking too much

The cars are great when trying to run 11's (and even high 10's) That's the limit of the 'cheap' mods. After that, you can prepare to spend a LOT more money to gain about 3/10ths. Matt Monet picked up all of .1 second off a 100(125?) shot. The cars are just too heavy once you get going that fast.

Also, as for handling, they are heavy, but I was surprised as hell at how nimble they are. And don't forget the fact, that unlike the supras you will have 1> a very usable power range 1> ability to put that power doen on the street and not just on slicks.