Apexi Super AFC for now?
11-30-03, 11:50 AM
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Apexi Super AFC for now?
Can I use the AFC for fuel to compensate for more mods for now?? I mainly want a full exhaust (including midpipe) and intakes, that will lead to over boost thus I need a new computer. I cant afford a Power FC but this is more reasonable and more in my price range?
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Comments and/or suggestion welcomed.
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11-30-03, 01:09 PM
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Some reasoning please??
I cant afford the 1200 for one at the moment its way to expensive. I mean if this will at least solve the fuel problem for now its worth it no?
I cant afford the 1200 for one at the moment its way to expensive. I mean if this will at least solve the fuel problem for now its worth it no?
11-30-03, 03:41 PM
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I've seen first hand an FD make 380 rwhp single turbo with a fuel pressure regulator and a S-AFC. If your going to use the stock twins, I see no reason why it would NOT work. I ran with it for over 2 years on my FC boosting the **** out of it and running higher fuel pressure without every having issues. It's best to get a PFC, but in the meantime, an S-AFC can fix some of the fuel issues you will have.
11-30-03, 03:46 PM
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Yes I plan to use the stock twins for quite some time. Yet I wouldnt mind getting 12psi out of them or just stock boost but with more fuel to compensate for removal of the cat. I have to remove the car since Im getting rid of all emmisions ****. BTW any pics where the stock fuel regulator is? Ive got my motor sorta torn apart so its no biggie to get. Thanks
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Originally posted by the_glass_man
Just save for a PFC, don't waste the money on a S-AFC only to have to upgrade it later.
Just save for a PFC, don't waste the money on a S-AFC only to have to upgrade it later.
11-30-03, 04:11 PM
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I would not be upgrading anytime soon, easily another 6 months or more until I can even think about it.
I would not be upgrading anytime soon, easily another 6 months or more until I can even think about it.
You don't have to get the commander, plus you could sell your stock ECU if you really wanted to or needed to.
11-30-03, 04:58 PM
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Ive heard the I'll clog the cats without the emmisions stuff. They already have 130k miles on them if their not clogged already. I already have most of my exhaust already, Im only missing the midpipe and tip. Intake and DP I already have.
11-30-03, 08:39 PM
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Do what you want. If the S-AFC can be had for a cheap price...why putt around for 6 months. If your buying it new...might as well get the PFC.
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start selling stuff around the house!
think whats better.
waiting for the nice pfc that can tune the engine well
OR
putting the s-afc in and maybe blowing your engine, causeing you to be in more debt of the cost of the pfc.
so in the end just wait, no reason not to wait. you will get it soon.
think whats better.
waiting for the nice pfc that can tune the engine well
OR
putting the s-afc in and maybe blowing your engine, causeing you to be in more debt of the cost of the pfc.
so in the end just wait, no reason not to wait. you will get it soon.
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they're full of ****. I'll say it now...if tuned right, the AFC will do fine as long as you don't turn the boost up past 15 psi. Ask Dragon about his turbonetics 60-1 with a fuel pressure regulator and S-AFC. Or IGY with a TD-06, fuel pressure regulator and S-AFC. Both cars ran for over 2 years on an SAFC. Dragon's car ran for over 2 years and didn't blow because of running lean. It blew because it lost a water seal. IGY's engine NEVER blew up on that setup.
If you can access a dyno, you can get "reliable" a/f's and save up for your Power FC. But I guarantee you that most of these people talking bad about the SAFC couldn't tune their own PFC's... S-AFC is easy. You just have to be sure your a/f's are correct....just like on the PFC...you could put on a PFC and still blow up the engine.
If you can access a dyno, you can get "reliable" a/f's and save up for your Power FC. But I guarantee you that most of these people talking bad about the SAFC couldn't tune their own PFC's... S-AFC is easy. You just have to be sure your a/f's are correct....just like on the PFC...you could put on a PFC and still blow up the engine.
12-01-03, 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by jspecracer7
they're full of ****. I'll say it now...if tuned right, the AFC will do fine as long as you don't turn the boost up past 15 psi. Ask Dragon about his turbonetics 60-1 with a fuel pressure regulator and S-AFC. Or IGY with a TD-06, fuel pressure regulator and S-AFC. Both cars ran for over 2 years on an SAFC. Dragon's car ran for over 2 years and didn't blow because of running lean. It blew because it lost a water seal. IGY's engine NEVER blew up on that setup.
If you can access a dyno, you can get "reliable" a/f's and save up for your Power FC. But I guarantee you that most of these people talking bad about the SAFC couldn't tune their own PFC's... S-AFC is easy. You just have to be sure your a/f's are correct....just like on the PFC...you could put on a PFC and still blow up the engine.
they're full of ****. I'll say it now...if tuned right, the AFC will do fine as long as you don't turn the boost up past 15 psi. Ask Dragon about his turbonetics 60-1 with a fuel pressure regulator and S-AFC. Or IGY with a TD-06, fuel pressure regulator and S-AFC. Both cars ran for over 2 years on an SAFC. Dragon's car ran for over 2 years and didn't blow because of running lean. It blew because it lost a water seal. IGY's engine NEVER blew up on that setup.
If you can access a dyno, you can get "reliable" a/f's and save up for your Power FC. But I guarantee you that most of these people talking bad about the SAFC couldn't tune their own PFC's... S-AFC is easy. You just have to be sure your a/f's are correct....just like on the PFC...you could put on a PFC and still blow up the engine.
12-01-03, 03:17 PM
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No it's not Turbo'd
Midpipe = pop Off valve or Turbo porting or else (Boost Creep) nothing you do with the AFC will prevent it.. it's a matter of the wastegate not beeing able to get rid of enough exhaust fast enough for you... has nothing to do with fuel, except that when you hit 15 PSI due to creep you need more fuel... I say put a pop off on ..250 Max, set it to 13 PSI and go on with your life...
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Well ya I was planning to do a manual boost controller ( I like Damians set up). Then move on from there. Could I not get an aftermarket BOV set at 13?
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