ok i was driving and i heard a pop noise then tons of smoke came from the back of the car so i pulled over and turned it off i couldnt see much exept a hose that looks like it blew in half (dont know if it was there before or not) so I had a friend who owns a shop look at it he told me to start it and said it looked like the turbos, it starts no problem but will fill a parking lot in a few seconds (not joking) with tons of smoke! it pours out of the exhaust. so i had it sitting in my driveway for a couple weeks and went to have it put on a flat bed to go get fixed when i notice it had leaked just about every last bit of oil it had on my drive way! :< it hasnt moved in awhile because im trying to find out if an apex seal went, the turbo(s) went, an apex seal went and went in the turbine section of the turbo and both are messed up. any ideas? please any ideas will do! exept saying its a head gasket! the guy who came with the flat bed said it sounded like a head gasket, and he had changed plenty of head gaskets on rx-7 lol!!!!

 

What hose blew in half? That is an obvious starting point to fixing your car.

Is the smoke oil or water+coolant? If it is coolant, it might be an o-ring in the engine. If it is oil, it might be a bad turbo dumping oil into the exhaust.

Does the car idle smoothly other than the smoke? Do you have a vacuum gauge (many boost gauges have a vacuum section)? Is your vacuum at idle jumping around and low (<14 inHg)? If it idles smoothly and the vacuum is reasonable (14+ inHg), it is almost certainly not an apex seal.

-Max

 

sounds almost like what happend to me. it was my turbos. sound like it might be the same. but ill save it for the experts! any suggestions guys?

 

give us some more info or pictures. sounds like you are about to get ripped off at whatever shop it goes to and the car will be more broken after you pay

 

ill have some pics soon ive got to go to work in a few seconds. The guy with the flat bed was a tow truck driver not the shop it was going to fix it. but ill post the pics later today of the hose ect. the hose is next to the fire wall on the driver side (US driver side). like i said ill post pics.

 

i would have had some pics posted but the board went down. so ill get them posted later today. i dont know if i like the new look or not. any other suggestions on what it could be before i post the pics?

 

a random wire i found when i was looking for the hose that exploded, i couldnt find it! so dont have a pic of that.

 

oil is all in the intake system past the intercooler. pools of it are in the ribs of the intake soft pipe between the intercooler and the hard pipe that leads to the intake manifold.

the car idels fine exept for the tons of smoke! it dosent smell like coolent burning, so i think its most likly oil

 

sounds like a seal in one or both of you tubo(s) has faild and is dumping oil in your exhaust and shooting it though the intake system im not sure where it could be leaking from exept right out the of the turbo itself and from the picture under the car it looks like its leaking from more than one spot.

 

Any one else going to help this guy out? someone who probly knows more then me?

 

which springfield are you in (what state)

 

REX has to answer max's questions.
what color is the smoke?
does it idle smoothly?
does it have prob starting?
i am assuming that your oil level dropped a lot?

by the oil disappearing and the smoke coming out of your tail pipe (assuming that its black/ grey perhaps hint of blue) i say its a bad turbo. some oil in your intake sys is norma, but it was hard to judge by the pic with the oil on your finger. if it was your motor i would say you would have rough idle if it even started at all. and i dont think you would be pooring smoke out of your tail pipe.

 

damn sigs always stay on now! sorry mahjik ill remove it.

 

Smoke= greyish not even close to black!
It idles just as smooth as it always has, it just pours smoke now
It starts up with easly as it always has
Before this happend: some times it would just click and wouldnt start I would have to turn the key on and off to get it to start.
OIL: Most of it was on the drive way! but yes its bone dry now after sitting for awhile but no it didnt run out when it was runing!!!

 

I run cast. GTX if it makes a diff. with a fram filter

 

im pretty sure its your turbos. ill even bet its your primary turbo.

 

what make you say it's the primary?

 

lol nothing really. it can have its problems since its the turbo you use the most (of course depending on the way you drive it). its very likely it can go first. i am just guessing its you primary in this case.

 

i would argee on it being the turbo i had the same thing happen to my 7. i had the same problems you did

 

compression test ?

 

I'm going through the same thing you are. Except my car is holding oil better and theres not as much smoke. My front turbo has some shaft play and I haven't been able to check the rear. I already bought the replacements, so this thursday(my only day off) I'm going to change them out. My friend (who first put the car together) said it shouldn't be too hard swap.(non-seq)

 

I havnt compression tested it yet i have been working so i havent had the time but i plan on it just to be safe, what should it read? i have done compression tests on piston engines before just never a rotary so if someone could just give me the basics like do i put the tester inplace of the primary of secondary plug ect. i would appreciate it.

how hard is it to go no-seq.? and is it worth it? i dont see the advantage of non-seq. over seq. how easy are the turbos to replace?

 

any one?

 

Sounds like it is the turbos. If it was an apex seal, the idle would be at least a bit lumpy and you might have trouble starting it. The "clicks when trying to start" isn't the engine.

I didn't look at the pictures carefully, but there is a blue connector that doesn't connect to anything in that area. I believe it was for cars that had an EGR valve with a sensor on it -- the connector tells the ECU if the EGR valve is open or not. But most cars have an EGR valve without the sensor. So it's probably nothing to worry about.

-Max