JaneRX7

I think it looks cool

Mr. Stock

BZZZT. Wrong Answer. Thank you for playing, Luigi.

The Mazda RX7 had the rear end first(1993 in the US).
The Ford Taurus did not come out with the "similar" rear end until the 1996 model year.

israel

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i agree with joe d on the first page, this kit makes a cool looking car, but it's NOT an rx-7. if someone really likes the kit so much, i'd rather see them rig it on to a fiero or something and leave the FD alone. having said that, it is your car, and i don't have the right to tell you what to do with it. i just like my car and how it looks and i'm a little protective of it that's all. and btw the front is part of this same AC kit from amemiya, not a porsche conversion, although the resemblance is striking.

Kahren

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if u really hate how teh FD looks why nto get a diffrent car? also applies to teh engien that it comes with. i am gonna put my flame suit on now.

1FooknTiteFD

I personally like the RE-amemiya car. It looks really really nice no matter what people say plus it pushes out over 400rwhp. Then again, I wouldn't have gone with pink though, maybe bright white or porsche super white

LT1-7

if people could buy a perfect car suited for that person from the factory, the world would be a perfect place. People change things on there car to show there personality, and that goes for allot of other things. If you're happy with just a stock FD, than I'm happy for you, really. But I need more than just a stock car, my personality calls for it. I'm not like everyone else so my car and many other things I own show it

BTW, I didn't buy that rearend. I'm staying with my Cwest rear. Looking at the RE rear from the side makes the car look too long in the back and I don't really care for that.

jimlab

It'd be quicker to just watch the video showing Racing Beat flipping their white FD on the salt flats...

http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/m..._Beat_flip.avi

Their black FD has noticeably changed aerodynamics, part of which, I believe, is full belly pan... sort of like the C5 Corvette...

wptrx7

you guys don't really think because someonwants to add a bodykit to there car they hate thier car? some people go single some stay stock, some use the reason that it is prventative maintance and som just wnat more rwhp. this is a change and is not what mazda put in the car from factory, does it mean you don't like the car. not everyone will like the kit, its expeted, but for those who do and have the money to spend on it they will purchase it. its to eaches own.

luigi

i like this argument that whay i keep replying. mr.stock i know the taurus was out later. its nice to see that ford likes the design and put it on a family car.

Donovan

The black and the white cars are the same car. It was rebuilt However..

Jim, I know you know what you are talking about and you know more than most, but I have to step in here.
It seems that you are always putting down the RX7 and pointing out it's weak points, and how much of a POS it is, and how crappy this or that design is. Why do you have one? Every one ( Well I do) realizes that it is not a perfect car and has it's problems but Christ man! You never seem to say anything good. To those uf us who love their car anyway it kind of feels like a repeated personal put down.
Now this is NOT a personal attack.

jimlab

I think you'll notice that if I'm "putting down" the RX-7, it's usually because someone has put down another car first.

There's a specific reason for the final design of the rear of the C5 Corvette. GM found that their original, more aesthetically pleasing design broke up airflow at high speeds, and instead of issuing a car that was pretty but unstable at high speeds, they changed the design. The result is the "huge ***" that everyone seems to hate... but the car is stable to over 200 mph. Function over form in its purest sense.

If I seemingly "downgrade" the RX-7 often, it's to really bring home my point to the uninformed that the RX-7 isn't the perfect piece of engineering that everyone wants to believe it is, and that other cars, including domestics, do have their own merits. The 3rd gen. RX-7 is an incredible car, but all cars have limits.

I didn't take it as one. If you admit that the RX-7 isn't a perfect car and has its problems, then you're among the minority, unfortunately. Sometimes I get the feeling that many members truly believe that all the design engineers at other car companies were dropped on their heads at birth...

I have an RX-7 because I liked the looks of the car and the speed. Simple as that.

Back to the subject of top speed... I've been to 180 mph in my RX-7, and to give credit where credit is due, I've never driven a street car that would hit 150-160 mph so quickly. But even though it felt stable at higher speeds, there's no way of knowing how close I was to being airborn. In sort of a side effect of the original goal, my RX-7 will be capable of 200+ mph, but I'm realistic enough and intelligent enough to know that Mazda installed a 155 mph speed limiter for a reason (the Corvette is unlimited, by the way...) and that anything over 155-160 mph is A) ridiculous on public roads, and B) is probably pretty close to writing a check your butt can't cash. All it takes is just one unexpected dip in the road to unsettle the car. Salt flats are what the name implies... flat. And salty.

Unless you've done wind tunnel testing after modifying the car to create more downforce, you're probably insane to try 160+ mph in an FD. In fact, you're insane if you bolt on a bunch of body kit parts and then push 130+ mph without any knowledge whatsoever of what you've done to the aerodynamics of the car, in my opinion.

With all the top speed threads that get started, I figured it was probably in everyone's best interests if someone was "realistic" about the limitations of the 3rd gen. design, and someone commenting on the meat cleaver rear of Corvette was a good enough place to start.

rynberg

Jim, I think you are thinking of your Supra, the FD (US version anyway) never had a speed limiter of any kind.

I completely agree. If I ever change the front end, it will be the 99+ front end for the simple reason that it has been wind tunnel tested. In fact, I seem to remember somebody with a Veilside kit ( ) posting that their body add-ons threatened to come off the car above 120+. Sounds stable to me.....

jimlab

Thanks for the correction. I could have sworn that Brian Richards mentioned removing the speed limiter at the same time they were reprogramming my ECU (one of the first that Mostly Mazda did) but it's been so long that my memory could be faulty.

Oddly enough, Steve Kan's car has the Veilside kit on it, I believe.

If circumstances permit, I'd like to put my car (R1 front spoiler, no rear spoiler) in a wind tunnel and video tape the results of 160+ mph air flow for people to watch. I think the results would be very, very interesting.

ttpowerd

I have to agree with joe d on this one,