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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Anyone know of any writeups on installing toe links and trailing arms?

I need to know where exactly I put my toe links and trailing arms...I do know I need to get an alignment afterwards...but the bushings are already installed in the links and arms. Thanks guys!
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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Dude, it's a few bolts! Look at the FSM for assistance....

You can minimize the alignment problem by adjusting the arms to match the length of the stock parts.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 01:20 PM
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I have no idea where they even go?!?! Are they on the axle?? Some pictures would be nice lol...I'm a retard..god!
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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lol, okay jack the car up and look at the rear axles and rear suspension. The trailing arms run parallel with the vehicle, perpindicular to the axle. One end of the trailing arm mounts like on the body or subframe in front of the rear axle, the other end mounts to the lower control arm I think. Just look around, you can't miss them.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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I have no idea where they even go?!?! Are they on the axle?? Some pictures would be nice lol...I'm a retard..god!
Just curious, why did you buy them if you don't know where they go or what they do?
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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Was going to have a mechanic install them...but he told me I could install them myself...so why not?
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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Where's Olney in respect to Baltimore or Rockville? If necessary I can point them out to you or help you with the install.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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I'm at my shop in Gaithersburg atm!....olney is about 10-15min from rockville...g-burg about the same!!
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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I'll repeat Mahjik's question....why did you buy them if you don't even know what they do or if your current parts are even worn? That's what, over $300 for a pointless "upgrade"?
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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This post brings up a good point - do not even attempt to work on these cars unless you have the Shop Manual present. You need to be somewhat mechanically adept, have the tools and the time to perform these tasks. Don't rely on these folks on the forum to just tell you how. If you don't have the manual and the tools/experience to perform maintenance on these cars, you will end up;
A) Injuring yourself
B) Damaging your car
C) Both

Time and Time again I see these posts....

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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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^+1!!!

Tell your mechanic you dont have the skills for this and pay him to do the job.

Look at the FSM, its in this forum. This is a easy job with the manual
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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I bought the toe links and trailing arms because apparently those are what were causing a knocking sound in my rear suspension....dont worry about it xthephilx is coming by to give me a hand. I do have experience with cars....not performance cars but cars nontheless. Ya'll are a bunch of sharks...jesus christ!
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 06:14 PM
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why waste time giving your car to your mechanic when you and do it yourself, have some fun (if everything goes smoothly), and become more familiar with your FD? the greater the pain, the greater the reward
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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I would think replacing the bushings would of been cheaper but don't know for sure.

Have you replaced you pillowballs bushings? Those fixed my rearend clunking, the new toe links/trailing arms just seemed to "tighten" things up.


Originally Posted by scrubolio
why waste time giving your car to your mechanic when you and do it yourself, have some fun (if everything goes smoothly), and become more familiar with your FD? the greater the pain, the greater the reward
Because a person doesnt care about learning to work on a car or is unwilling to learn and gain the knowledge to properly work on the car. Some people also don't have time or space to work.
I admit that if I had a good reliable shop around me I would be very tempted to have my work done there, I really dont have the time to do it myself and find no real joy in it and a couple other reasons.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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It's easier if you take the wheel off first, but I doubt there will be pics for that either.
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Originally Posted by badddrx7
This post brings up a good point - do not even attempt to work on these cars unless you have the Shop Manual present. You need to be somewhat mechanically adept, have the tools and the time to perform these tasks. Don't rely on these folks on the forum to just tell you how. If you don't have the manual and the tools/experience to perform maintenance on these cars, you will end up;
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Time and Time again I see these posts....

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I have been preaching this for years!
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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Got it done kthnxbye
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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Did it fix the clunking? Usually the clunking noises are from the pillow ball bushings. I think when you install new trailing arms, you only actually replace one of the bushings.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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Well....it fixed some of the clunking...I found out I can move my pillowball bushings with 1 finger, they are really bad off...I'm hoping theres some polyurethane/delrin GB for the pillowballs....

Before I installed the toelinks/trailing arms...whenever I would brake....it would be constant hearable bushing flex...lots of small clunkings along with one final big clunk at the end....these eliminated all of the small clunkings...So I'm happy with the result. I do need the 6 pillowball bushings.....plus I love working on my car(I stay away from all that is wiring with this car). All in all I had a good time drinking beer and installing these things! Seriously thanks for all the people who were supportive in this endeavor...and stop being so damn mean to all of you who "flamed" me...
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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Not a problem. The beer and the food was worth it
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tenacious
Well....it fixed some of the clunking...I found out I can move my pillowball bushings with 1 finger, they are really bad off...I'm hoping theres some polyurethane/delrin GB for the pillowballs....
Good luck with that, because pillowballs aren't the same thing as poly or delrin bushings.

Mazda is the only reasonable source for pillowballs.

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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 01:05 AM
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Yeah I just changed out my toe links and trailarms, it was very easy took a couple of hours. Well it fixed most of the clunking noises so i still need to replace the pillowballs out. Does anybody know how much they go for?
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 05:38 AM
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...so i still need to replace the pillowballs out. Does anybody know how much they go for?
IIRC, ~$50 per if bought seperately.
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 06:08 AM
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It's up to $60, and the dust seals are like $6/pillowball.

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