Ya, sounds like a good idea, problem is you still have to carry around the extra weight.

 

3000gt,aka gto won't ever ever ever keep up with FD or FC, big mitsu isn't made for track use. awd does have advantage as in small light application aka lancer. Most awd's do understeer crazy, which is a big no no. xrta weight is bad, understeer is worse, GTO or Z32 won't never drive as good, hold more velocity, let you put it down faster or before apex than fd, fc, or s14 or other whatever you can name. of few awd's that drives, R34 gtr or lancer evo6 and later, or one of those imprezzas. gtr's are nice as it is rear wheel drive based AWD. but that big fat red mitsu isn't it.

 

since the 911's are AWD i'm convinced its good for something are the higher tag porche's awd too?

 

in this months turbo mag, there is a 26b twin turbo (biggg turbos) e36 BMW.... its all pink. an aussie car. really nice. they say it puts out 1500hp at full boost and runs 6's or 7's quarter mile.

anyone else see it?

 

simple enough, I have a rwd car, Ive had an awd car, I recently had a fwd car, in my honest opinion, the most balanced between launch, acceleration and top speed is rwd

 

I forgot to mention that a great combo is a mid engine rwd car, such as the mr2 or the nsx, I would prefer that over a mid engine awd car. My .02 cents. AWD guys like AWD, FWD Guys Like FWD, V8 guys like V8's, Rotorheads like Rotaries, you stick to your own, its like trying to convert an atheist to christianism, never gonna happen.

 

Obviously, you guys are drag racers, that not what the RX-7 was designed for. If you look at a couple threads below yours, you will see 6 of the top 10 fastest cars for that particular track are AWD. Alot better traction around corners because the car pulls and pushes itself through the corner. Very hard to lose control of an AWD vehicle. If AWD is a waste why is one of the most feared Japanese sports cars, the Skyline, AWD? And the Skyline is not an off-road vehicle as someone mentioned all AWD's are for. Tell that to Porshe. They make AWD street cars.

 

Jimlab's next project...?

 

AWD isn't bad.. but if i would make an AWD it would be like the porsche where its speed sensing.... or torque sensing.. or like the marciolago (sp) where its 90% torque to the rear and 10% to the front..

 

um...the rx7 listed is a 3 year old car on a 10 year old platform. the brand new awd cars better be faster than it....

 

And people wonder why we praise the 7 soooooo much.


I just realized that test didn't have a Z06. I have a feeling it would have gotten first.

 

Racer 4 life:

It's Christianity, dude............

You're scarin' me............

Hey, it's Sunday mornin'............time to go to church...........I luvs me some christianism..........



Figured I could get a whole religion debate goin'.........

 

yeah isnt it more like 13 years?

 

Yea you have to give the rx7 some credit it still hangs out in most professional events and has a cult like enthusiast following, even though its on a 13yr old platform that was flawed (majorly compared to most cars) from the star.

Oh and I'd driven 3000gts... they are dogs... utter dogs(try the non turbo version sometime you'll wish it was a civic so you could have some power atleast) . Unless its a highly modded VR-4.... its just kinda sad.

 

AWD would be fun in a sedan up here in the snowy tundra of ... Pennsylvania (or Transylvania). Lots of twisties with snow and no run-off isn't always fun.

It would be great for a regular non-performance sedan but it would need lots of power and some creative metals/design to make it feel like a true sports car. I still don't consider STi's and EVO's sports cars. YEs, they can be faster than many sports cars, but .... that' s a different thread.

I think the Mazda3 will also have a AWD option in the future... some like something someone can shoehorn a rotary engine into...

 

...though with Bridgestone Blizzaks, my FC plowed through the snow better than most SUV's as long that I had some clearance (or at least a head start).

 

Sorry buddy, Im thinking in spanish Cristianismo, so I said Christianism, back to america!

 

close enough, heh.

 

ain't Tsububa, it's tsukuba, as most you know, prolly just mistyped. But, Mine's R34 GTR was beaten at Tsukuba lap time by RE-amemiya White FD, with about 75% power of RB26. think that was back in 02 or 01. Best motoring does have accurate lap tests, but it' all had different environment when the laps were done. Mine's and RE or Trial those Tuner Tsukuba challenge is held every year. Yes, you do see lancer or GTR's getting top lap times. FD's normally do just as good, but it's not a choice of many tuners as car is pretty old. i don't think it's accurate enough that F40 would do that bad.

Certain tracks will have advantage for certain cars. Try F40 at Suzuka, will just about beat everything else.

As Far as porsche 911's go, ALL their real serious track use ****'s are RWD. not AWD, check out GT2 over regular 911 turbo.

for most of amateurs, i'd think would do better with GTR or Lancer. but for real good ones, it's always none-heavy MR or FR. MR is the best chassis for track racing period, eventho well made FR can hang with it.

 

hmmm good topic, when it comes down to it , this is like comparing apples to oranges. both RWD and AWD are really nice in their own way. At the moment I drive an impreza and it is great, Ive done the suspension, brakes, body and minor engine mod's. the car has good bottom end torque and launches really well ,but the top end is lackin. the best part about the car is its handling, the AWD drive is sick , I think the car handles too well, I mean you really have to try to break the car loose even in the rain Im sure if it had 600HP it would drift well but...
Any way Im thinking of selling the scooby and going back to the good old RX7. I used to a have turbo II and loved it , alllll that top end power!! but this time a third gen is what Im after. I think as far as RWD goes ,if you’re a good driver and set up your suspension well both cars can handle just as well (on dry tarmac). but the RWD would be more fun and more of a challenge to drive

in an ideal world I would have both

 

all big time racers use RWD, dont they? like JGTC, all RWD, Formula1, RWD, and so on. Cars as great and praised as the skyline GT-R are essentially RWD(yes, the skylie is RWD, it has AWD only when it breaks free, thats what the ATTESA system is for). RWD is light, and puts more power to the ground than AWD does. This is why mazda, toyota, nissan, and so on, built their good cars as RWD...but you gottta love AWD for rally...

 

Here in Greece AWD is highly praised...the reason is we have glass slipery roads and uneducated drivers who think they are Colin Mc Ray!
It is much easier to drive an AWD car if you are an average driver, it flatters you most and allows for more mistakes, but an experienced/professional driver will lap faster with a RWD than AWD.
There are many other important things that play a very significant part in this, notably weight, weight distribution and low center of gravity. The FD excells in all these !

 

You guys do realize that the FD is already mid engined, right? 'Mid Engine' is not defined as having the engine behind you, it's defined as having the engine between the two axles. all RX-7s are mid-engined, just not in the same way a Lamborghini Diablo is.

However, i do not know if the engine in a FD that has a 20B installed hangs out past the front axle.

victor

 

I forgot which one of the two this system is in, I think its the WRX Sti but either the Sti or the Evolution VIII has a variable drivetrain ****. You can focus the power from, i believe its 66% power to the front to 75% power to the rear wheels.

 

i believe they call our cars "Front Mid Engine" meaning its mid engine but its in the front and usually has a nice balance like 50/50, like the new shelby cobra... simply "mid engine" i think being in the rear is implied. regardless of semantics or whatever, i think everyone generally understands that when someone says MR it means its in the back and it has a different balance.

i think when you are talking strictly about performance, cost doesnt matter much. but i guess each has its advantages. i personally like rwd. though i really need a subaru or jeep right now since its such a shitty winter.