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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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Right. I don't understand why I would buy a gauge to tell me the temperature of the water inside the motor and then install it in such a way that it CANNOT tell me the temperature of the water inside the motor.
I dont understand why you wasted your time posting this, somethings are not meant to be understood.
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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Go to Autozone... But a Sunpro "sunparts" metric adapter kit....

It screwe right into the allenhead bolt on the side of the filler neck, and the autometer sender plugs right in...
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 01:50 PM
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Go to Autozone... But a Sunpro "sunparts" metric adapter kit....

It screwe right into the allenhead bolt on the side of the filler neck, and the autometer sender plugs right in...
doesn't the sender have to touch the water to work?
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroBanger
doesn't the sender have to touch the water to work?
It's just an adaptor. It merely allows the aftermarket sender to fit in a stock hole that's already there. The sender still extends into the coolant flow.
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by DamonB
It's just an adaptor. It merely allows the aftermarket sender to fit in a stock hole that's already there. The sender still extends into the coolant flow.
Ok, but u need a special tool to remove the TAP that is currently installed, right? I think thats why I was confused by his statement.
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroBanger
Ok, but u need a special tool to remove the TAP that is currently installed, right?
Everyone I have seen is just an allen head?
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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just an allen head...
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by rjuge
just an allen head...
oh wow thats cool. I'm gonna try this maybe tonite.
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 03:38 PM
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I should ask another New-B question before I try this..

I can do this with the housing on the car if I choose the one on the top of the housing, right?

Mine came with a 1/8 sending unit and a 3/8 and 1/2 NPT adapter. Does anyone know the size of the NPT adapter I would have to put in the housing? I think it looks 3/8, but I wanna make sure.

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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroBanger
I should ask another New-B question before I try this..

I can do this with the housing on the car if I choose the one on the top of the housing, right?

Mine came with a 1/8 sending unit and a 3/8 and 1/2 NPT adapter. Does anyone know the size of the NPT adapter I would have to put in the housing? I think it looks 3/8, but I wanna make sure.

thanks alot.
Yep, you don't need to remove the housing for the install. Just remove the hex bolt and put the fitting in it's place. You might have to cut on your coolant cap to get it to screw down again.
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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cool, do you know if its 3/8 NPT fitting?
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroBanger
cool, do you know if its 3/8 NPT fitting?
I don't remember which fitting off hand, but once you remove the hex bolt, it will be obvious. Only one will work and they aren't that close in size.
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 04:26 PM
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Oh I understand it will be obvious, I just wanted to make sure i have the right one that fits when I attempt this. Otherwise I have to put it back on and buy a new one and hope it works.

thanks so much for your help, its appreciated.
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Old Sep 25, 2003 | 02:12 AM
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it's not a 3/8, it's a metric size (unless you want to try the :teflon tape idea"..... that adapter kit was less than $10 i think.... definitely the way to go...
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Old Sep 25, 2003 | 09:51 AM
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I decided to get a T adapter and do the throttle body thingy. DamonB is never wrong.

Thanks!
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Old Sep 25, 2003 | 04:57 PM
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damonB is a genious!!!

My power FC and my aftermarket water temp gauge read exact now!!
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Old Sep 25, 2003 | 05:00 PM
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ZB, What adapter did you use?
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Old Sep 25, 2003 | 05:18 PM
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ZB, What adapter did you use?
I went to orchard supply hardware and got some ugly 1/4 npt Tee and with 2 NPT 1/4 barb connectors. Oh yea and a 1/8 to 1/4 NPT adapter.

costed $4.97 all together and took 20 minutes to insall.
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Old Sep 25, 2003 | 06:21 PM
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I looked for some hardware to install a VDO sender in the TB line, but I couldnt find anything with the right thread pattern. I went to Home Depot. The thread pattern for the VDO sender is the same as the oil drain plug. Home Depot didn't carry any "automotive" thread pattern hardware.
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Old Sep 25, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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I looked for some hardware to install a VDO sender in the TB line, but I couldnt find anything with the right thread pattern.
My VDO fit into the brass tee just fine with one of the adaptors that came with my sender.
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 03:48 AM
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Didnt feel like reading all these posts, so not sure if this has been suggested. Anyhow I have a autometer electrical water temp gauge, and I screwed in the sensor right into a hole in the thermostat housing, after removing the unused bolt with a hex key. The gauge comes with an adaptor with pipe threads exactly matching this hole. Hope that helps.
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 06:41 AM
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A well kept secret seems to be that the Autometer sensor will screw right into the allen head bolt right next to the filler neck. Hows that for an easy install? They are ever so slightly different pitches, but it will go in about 4 turns before it gets tight, but be carefull and use sealant, I have had mine there for about 2 years now. Although Autometer temp guages read way wrong and I had to calibrate it myself ny adding resistors.
I tried this and it's almost true. If you want to force it in there you can and it may work without leaking. But autometer pitch size is american and the stock one is metric.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 07:11 PM
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Let's dig this thread out again.

I have a few Q's to add.

Which throttle body hose (there are 2 right?) are you guys tapping into? Is it the one that is clearly visible with the 90degree fitting next to the firewall (I hope)?

What size hose is that? I have a Defi sensor that's 1/8PT with a 1/8NPT adaptor (yes, they're both 1/8, I suppose one is metric, the other isn't). Anyone got an easy fit solution?

Thanks.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 07:22 PM
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Let's dig this thread out again.

I have a few Q's to add.

Which throttle body hose (there are 2 right?) are you guys tapping into? Is it the one that is clearly visible with the 90degree fitting next to the firewall (I hope)?

What size hose is that? I have a Defi sensor that's 1/8PT with a 1/8NPT adaptor (yes, they're both 1/8, I suppose one is metric, the other isn't). Anyone got an easy fit solution?

Thanks.
I did mine a few days after I originally posted in this thread. I used the coolant throttle body hose near the firewall, just behind the manifold. It took 15 minutes to do. I dont have any pics or part #'s but I can tell how I did this. I went to orchard suppliy hardware and bought a brass T connector. The T connector I bought was a 1/8 to fit my 1/8 sending unit. It also required two 1/8 NPT to barb connectors.

basically, on my lunch break I took my T connector and then screwed on each side one of the 1/8 to barb NPT connectors. I used teflon take inbetween to keep it sealed. I removed the end of the throttle body hose that connects to the manifold and slid it over the barb connector and used a metal clamp and tightened it. Then I had a 6 inch 3/8 water hose that I connected to the other NPT barb connector and clamped it down. And lastly connected the other end of the hose to the manifold. Oh yea, then I screwed the sending unit in and sealed the outside with a little JB weld, since the manufacturer does not recommend using teflon tape on the sender.

without pics, Im sure this description doesn't do you any good but trust me when I say its a 15 minute job and is very accurate to what the POWER FC Water temp is (within 2-3 degrees F). The only difference is the water in the throttle body hose does not heat soak after you turn the car off like the stock sensor does.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 07:39 PM
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Wow. What a quick and complete response! No need for pics.

Thanks Zero. You 'da man!
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