greddyfreddy

I would appreciate some advice on this car that im about to buy. And help with finding out what turbo.

Its a 1994 Japan import with 7900km on the clock. The price is right. Help me decide if im doing something stupid when buying this. The seller doesnt really know the make of all the parts on it. He tells me that Rx7 experts have taken a look at it and they say that it looks like it has had a rebuild since all the gasket looks new etc. The seller is a respected company that i have bought several cars from before and i know him personally.

Engine pic:
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...l_DSC04948.jpg

Mods:

Blitz FMIC
Blitz exhaust
Apexi intake
What turbo is this, is it a APEXi?
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...eddy/turbo.jpg
Aftermarket pulleys
Some other stuff like boost and EGT gauges

Hes telling me the car is running stock ECU, stock injectors, stock fuelpump. And the car runns great at 0.8BAR. It hasnt been remapped since it came to Europe with the slight lower octane figure then in Japan.

Do you think i will be fine without a remap if i keep it below 0.8BAR or should i be worried about stock fueling with this bigger singleturbo? Should i be worried about the milage if it hasnt been rebuilt?

Please give me your thoughts.

CareBear

Ain't that a lot of modifications to run stock ECU on? The car looks nice, the engine bay doesn't look top notch, but hey

Pressurized

yes, thats the Apexi' turbo, it's pretty small for a single...i think it tops out in the 430whp range....if that.
the car might run 'well' on the stock ECU, but that doesn't mean anything, it could be on it's way out or making no where near it's potential. if you can afford to buy this car, you should be able to spring the extra $1k or so for a PowerFC and at least a Walbro fuel pump upgrade.

fritts

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What hood is on that car? I don't remember seeing that one before, maybe its the angle?

greddyfreddy

I also think its a bit much upgrades for the stock ecu. He tells me that he thinks the stock ecu can have been mapped for this turbo in Japan.

I agree about the PowerFC. But i have to travel really far to find someone that can map it for me.

I dont know make the hood is, sorry.

What i really want to know is, can i drive this car SAFE for a couple of months until i can install an powerfc and map it?

I know that is hard to answer not knowing anything about the car.

donz

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Are you importing this from japan? japan is notorious for rolling back the clicks, as 8000km is really really low.

Many people will tell you that you have to actually see it run before buying, but if the price is right, it's your call

FD3S2005

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there is no possible way to change the stock ecu settings, need to get a new ecu, i really wouldnt push the car with the stock ecu and thos mods... driving it around like a normal car, sure that will work but if u want to go WOT new ecu, injectors and fuel pump..

pinkrx7

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i wouldnt drive it around until you could tune it with a stand alone

greddyfreddy

Yeah, its imported from Japan. I know it runs and that it runs good.
I dont think the milage can be guaranteed either.'
I really would like to WOT a bit.

If there is no possible way to change stock ECU settings and it is running the apexi turbo. Wouldnt the car already have went boom if it hasnt been tuned in any way? I must ask the seller again about the ECU, he didnt seem sure it was stock ECU. I dont think he knows if the injectors or fuelpump is changed either. It is possible that they are changed without him knowing it. The car has held up this far?

Tough decission!

Mazda_X

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It looks like an R-Magic hood but I think the pins are in a different place so maybe not.

KJL Designs

Personally id have to agree with whats been said, although the car has run up to now i seriously doubt it'll last much longer in that state. These cars are great and can take a beating..... when setup right, however if something is slightly out of balance then it's bye bye rotar tips.

I've seen this car forsale and it looks clean, dont like the way the seller stuck 96 (N) plates on a 94 (L) registered car, but I suppose if it's unregistered and he didnt want to get done driving it round then fair enough.

If he is a mate of yours, surely he wouldnt mind if you trailored the car to be compression checked by a specialist, if everything is ok engine wise, why not leave it with them to have an aftermarket ecu fitted, and also fuel pump/injectors (if they havent already been done?)

There arent many of these cars in the UK, so it would be nice to see one more thats actually running on the road!

Good Luck anyway mate

greddyfreddy

I also agree with whats been said. But you know how it is when you want something. But i also dont want to end up with a blown motor.

The car is getting registered tomorrow.

I will ask him to perform a compression test.

Rx-7Addict

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maybe he just didnt list the ECU he uses...

Mahjik

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That's not exactly true. While you can't change the stock mapping directly, using a daughter board with new maps can be done inside of the stock ECU (i.e. Pettit Racing, M2, GForce ECU's). Many tuners over in Japan reprogram stock ECU's this way for various setups (including larger injectors, single turbos, etc).

Eggie

Maybe the ECU has been rechipped like a Pettit computer.

EDIT: too slow by 1 minute!

gracer7-rx7

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Given the above, it seems like a decent car if the price is right.

Mahjik

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Well, we don't don't know if the ECU is actually remapped though.

spandy

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Engine bay sure does look dirty for only have 7900km of use.

Just because the odometer says 7900km, doesn't mean that's what the chassis has been through.

It's a beautiful car, but makes me wonder.

japspec

It is a R-Magic hood, I got one on mine

TEDDER1

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HAHA I met you at mildenhall! Small world!

(I was trying to bring my FD from the US over to there and was asking you about insurance about 1.5 yrs ago.)

greddyfreddy

I have now been given an even better price! Very, very tempting!!

Would you guys have bought it if you got the price you wanted to pay for it considering what we have discussed.

Not "i want to pay $5 for it" kind of price. Still decent money but a really great price.

Bonus question. Were do they sell R Magic bonnets and how much? This one is in fiber glass.

FD3S2005

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go on and buy it that means you saved some money because it went down.. and that could go twords a rebuild, or ecu, or even injectors if needed in the future

lol looking at the pic and focusing on the fd makes it look like a little toy car

muggarx7

7900 on the clock!!! it has definitly been wound back
i had the same worry when i bought my japanese import, but i took a chance anyway, so far so good, but my second turbo is about to die (some blue smoke coming out at high revs)

greddyfreddy

I have the chance to go for this car instead. Do you guys think i should go for this car instead if i get it for the same price as the one we were talking about.

Black 1995 mazda rx7 type r twin turbo
Imported 2005 excellent condition.
Japanese service history and documents.
Full uk service history.
Complete new engine from mazda in japan 2003 with documents to prove.
20k miles since engine replacement runs and starts like a dream.
Chassie 75000 miles.
De cat.
Recent compression tests show front and rear rotors 7.5kg/sq.cm (107psi)
Recent dyno 21/02/2007 proving 295.4bhp @ the rear wheels 340bhp @ the flywheel. Apexi ecu and power fc remapped by thor racing 21/02/2007.
Gear box replaced 15/10/2006 due to excessive bearing noise.
Uprated clutch, cover plate and release bearing.
Thousands spent, wheels alone not including tyres cost $5000.
$16000+ of receipts.
Keyless remote entry from cat1 toad alarm.
Alloy inter-cooler.
Knoi shocks.
Racing beat exhaust.
Hks induction.
Hks hard pipe kit.
Momo racing wheel and gear ****.
Short shift.
New carpet mats.
Clear indicators, clear front lenses.
Blaupunkt stereo, new front and rear sony and pioneer speakers.
Turbo timer,
Rear tinted screen,
Air-con (needs a new rubber pipe as gas escaping-aircon pump working fine! easy repair and subsequent regas required!)

Mahjik

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Pictures are worth a thousand words.



On the original car, it's not bad. The main concerns for me would be:

1. What ECU exactly is running the car.
2. The engine bay really needs some TLC

It could be a really nice car with a some work put into the engine bay (granted I can't see what the interior looks like).