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11-25-03, 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by felix_is_alive
btw, Tim Benton made ~ 362 hp @ 14.22 (i think) and was going to go for 16-17 psi, BUT i don't see the twins lasting very long at that range; new & improved turbos or not.
yes yes yes it just wont last why waste time and money when youre gonna have to get the single anyways
btw, Tim Benton made ~ 362 hp @ 14.22 (i think) and was going to go for 16-17 psi, BUT i don't see the twins lasting very long at that range; new & improved turbos or not.
yes yes yes it just wont last why waste time and money when youre gonna have to get the single anyways
My twins have two years of hard driving on them at 16psi and I have no leaks..no cracks..no heat issues...and no problems. my m2 set is still cherry.
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11-25-03, 01:23 PM
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no cracks.....shure ,even driving at the stock 10psi you will get cracks in the exhaust manifold ....carfully check around the actuator port area they will be there
11-25-03, 03:17 PM
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not the case.... beelzibub.
my car does not outperform a single turbo car in the sense you insinuate. I would never say that.
compare my cars sheets to the majority of the singles on the catenet site and you will see that in terms of streetability and response my setup is superior. however...id get eaten alive on the highway.
as I said..it is all about how you want to drive your car. I hate lag. singles have big lag. that lag would kill my enjoyment factor as I would not be able to enjoy it AT ALL without speeding. I like to zip around town and do stoplight to stoplight fun. I couldnt do that with a single. That is why I spent my cash on the m2 set.
you can take the lag and stick it in your tailpipe.
j
my car does not outperform a single turbo car in the sense you insinuate. I would never say that.
compare my cars sheets to the majority of the singles on the catenet site and you will see that in terms of streetability and response my setup is superior. however...id get eaten alive on the highway.
as I said..it is all about how you want to drive your car. I hate lag. singles have big lag. that lag would kill my enjoyment factor as I would not be able to enjoy it AT ALL without speeding. I like to zip around town and do stoplight to stoplight fun. I couldnt do that with a single. That is why I spent my cash on the m2 set.
you can take the lag and stick it in your tailpipe.
j
11-25-03, 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by artguy
great turbo....but not much different...lol...show me a dyno plot on that setup with spoolup numbers down low like the twins. sorry...aint happening.
if you dont mind lag...go single...its simpler...easier...and will smoke just about anything on the highway.
if you live in the city...beware.
send a pm to wargasm to have him pass you the link to his dyno sheet site. compare the charts. look at the power down low on the stockers vs the 99s vs the m2's vs the rx6 vs the gt3540. compare the powerband. if you like to drive a certain way, pick a turbo setup that will accomodate your style.
the rx6 is booty expensive. the gt35 kit smokes it on the top end. why go rx6 when you can get nearly the same peak power with the m2 set or the 99s and good tuning....and have even better low end response.
you might push 430 on an rx6 with lots o tuning...most with them are pushing around 360-400 from the dyno sheets i have seen.
j
great turbo....but not much different...lol...show me a dyno plot on that setup with spoolup numbers down low like the twins. sorry...aint happening.
if you dont mind lag...go single...its simpler...easier...and will smoke just about anything on the highway.
if you live in the city...beware.
send a pm to wargasm to have him pass you the link to his dyno sheet site. compare the charts. look at the power down low on the stockers vs the 99s vs the m2's vs the rx6 vs the gt3540. compare the powerband. if you like to drive a certain way, pick a turbo setup that will accomodate your style.
the rx6 is booty expensive. the gt35 kit smokes it on the top end. why go rx6 when you can get nearly the same peak power with the m2 set or the 99s and good tuning....and have even better low end response.
you might push 430 on an rx6 with lots o tuning...most with them are pushing around 360-400 from the dyno sheets i have seen.
j
11-25-03, 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by ZoomZoom
Well I have a dyno sheet that shows my 3540 putting down 10 less HP at 3k RPMS as healthy stock twins car....
Well I have a dyno sheet that shows my 3540 putting down 10 less HP at 3k RPMS as healthy stock twins car....
11-25-03, 06:04 PM
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It wont let me post this again but you can see it here at this link.
https://www.rx7club.com/single-turbo-rx-7s-23/gt3540-dyno-sheet-179190/
https://www.rx7club.com/single-turbo-rx-7s-23/gt3540-dyno-sheet-179190/
11-25-03, 06:32 PM
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zoom...what was the cause of your lost motor? how long has it been since your car was on the road? do you finally have your car back?
nice sheets. are they sae corrected?
cant wait to see the new dyno sheets.
I still wouldnt trade my immediate response for the gains of a single.
j
nice sheets. are they sae corrected?
cant wait to see the new dyno sheets.
I still wouldnt trade my immediate response for the gains of a single.
j
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11-25-03, 06:47 PM
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zoom...what was the cause of your lost motor? how long has it been since your car was on the road? do you finally have your car back?
nice sheets. are they sae corrected?
cant wait to see the new dyno sheets.
I still wouldnt trade my immediate response for the gains of a single.
j
zoom...what was the cause of your lost motor? how long has it been since your car was on the road? do you finally have your car back?
nice sheets. are they sae corrected?
cant wait to see the new dyno sheets.
I still wouldnt trade my immediate response for the gains of a single.
j
I would race you with your twins and I bet 100 bucks you couldnt even take me off the line with your Responsive twins LOL. I raced my Buddys STI Subaru, He has Mods and has dynoed his car at 325 to the wheels. He runs and Intake, Full exhaust, Greddy E01 EBC with 2 or 3 psi more boost than stock. A few other mods and AWD!! I still beat him off the line with my street tires and I was spinning in 1st and second. Missed third gear went into fifth. Downshifted to third again and still won by about 3 car lengths. (short race) to about 100 MPH. I have alot of faith in this turbo. I have driven my own car with stock twins and full List of Mods. All M2 stuff and Power FC. It just didnt pull heard until the second turbo kicked in at 4500 rpms. I would utterly destroy my old set-up in every way. I also had a problem with getting a laggy Turbo. If you drove my car you would LOVE IT!
11-25-03, 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by artguy
not the case.... beelzibub.
my car does not outperform a single turbo car in the sense you insinuate. I would never say that.
compare my cars sheets to the majority of the singles on the catenet site and you will see that in terms of streetability and response my setup is superior. however...id get eaten alive on the highway.
as I said..it is all about how you want to drive your car. I hate lag. singles have big lag. that lag would kill my enjoyment factor as I would not be able to enjoy it AT ALL without speeding. I like to zip around town and do stoplight to stoplight fun. I couldnt do that with a single. That is why I spent my cash on the m2 set.
you can take the lag and stick it in your tailpipe.
j
not the case.... beelzibub.
my car does not outperform a single turbo car in the sense you insinuate. I would never say that.
compare my cars sheets to the majority of the singles on the catenet site and you will see that in terms of streetability and response my setup is superior. however...id get eaten alive on the highway.
as I said..it is all about how you want to drive your car. I hate lag. singles have big lag. that lag would kill my enjoyment factor as I would not be able to enjoy it AT ALL without speeding. I like to zip around town and do stoplight to stoplight fun. I couldnt do that with a single. That is why I spent my cash on the m2 set.
you can take the lag and stick it in your tailpipe.
j
not likely ,and i am not talking huge t88h`s and the such ,a decently sized single will do like a 60-1 for instance ,but then again you probably wouldn`t know
take it from a man who`s had both ,single doesn`t necesarely mean big lag
11-25-03, 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by ZoomZoom
It wont let me post this again but you can see it here at this link.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?threadid=179190
It wont let me post this again but you can see it here at this link.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?threadid=179190
Someday when my car becomes just a track car/weekend car, it looks like a ball-bearing smaller single might be in the cards. For now, I'll stick with my good torque at 2500 rpm twins.....
11-25-03, 11:33 PM
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felix...post your dyno sheets. dont be scared. its ok. I will throw down a six pack bet that your single doesnt have the guts down low like mr zooms here. his is the ONLY one I have seen to date with that kind of response. I love being proven wrong. learn something every day huh? zooms old dyno sheets are nice. Lets see your sheets mr finely tuned machine you.
zoom..i agree with rynberg...yer car seems to be tuned well for the power you are running. compared to EVERY single setup on the catenet site yours is the exception. (unless some new charts are up that Im not aware of) well done. you must have quite a beast on your hands. who tuned it?
i would have raced ya when i was in mass but you couldnt get her running in time. I would not have expected to win...though I would have loved to see how she did.
in terms of response im not talking about drag racing drop the clutch smoke the tires bizness. I dont drive my car like that...at least on a daily basis..hehe... I drive from stoplight to stop light and tear around town.
yes..im sure i would love yer car...were you able to get it finished before the snow fell? I couldnt handle the weather up there. pure nasty...and the roads were unbearable. austin is great man. there are some wonderful roads around here and the ladies are even better.
j.
zoom..i agree with rynberg...yer car seems to be tuned well for the power you are running. compared to EVERY single setup on the catenet site yours is the exception. (unless some new charts are up that Im not aware of) well done. you must have quite a beast on your hands. who tuned it?
i would have raced ya when i was in mass but you couldnt get her running in time. I would not have expected to win...though I would have loved to see how she did.
in terms of response im not talking about drag racing drop the clutch smoke the tires bizness. I dont drive my car like that...at least on a daily basis..hehe... I drive from stoplight to stop light and tear around town.
yes..im sure i would love yer car...were you able to get it finished before the snow fell? I couldnt handle the weather up there. pure nasty...and the roads were unbearable. austin is great man. there are some wonderful roads around here and the ladies are even better.
j.
11-26-03, 12:48 AM
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I think mine has pretty good low rpm response.
I wish the ignition pickup was working when I made this run but that slight flat spot from 72 to 82 kph was my lag / response. Otherwise it pulls hard the rest of the way. This is an APEXi RX6A.
http://www.c2turbo.com/photopost/index.php?photo=247
I wish the ignition pickup was working when I made this run but that slight flat spot from 72 to 82 kph was my lag / response. Otherwise it pulls hard the rest of the way. This is an APEXi RX6A.
http://www.c2turbo.com/photopost/index.php?photo=247
11-26-03, 06:01 AM
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sorry bub swapped my 2-rotor 60-1 combo for a 3-rotor t76 ......to be honest i dont even care about the lag issue ,,doesnt mind me if you dont believe it fine with me either ,just i hate when people are so narrow minded , single doesn`t mean lag , whatever have fun ,
11-26-03, 09:31 AM
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felix...post your dyno sheets. dont be scared. its ok. I will throw down a six pack bet that your single doesnt have the guts down low like mr zooms here. his is the ONLY one I have seen to date with that kind of response. I love being proven wrong. learn something every day huh? zooms old dyno sheets are nice. Lets see your sheets mr finely tuned machine you.
zoom..i agree with rynberg...yer car seems to be tuned well for the power you are running. compared to EVERY single setup on the catenet site yours is the exception. (unless some new charts are up that Im not aware of) well done. you must have quite a beast on your hands. who tuned it?
i would have raced ya when i was in mass but you couldnt get her running in time. I would not have expected to win...though I would have loved to see how she did.
in terms of response im not talking about drag racing drop the clutch smoke the tires bizness. I dont drive my car like that...at least on a daily basis..hehe... I drive from stoplight to stop light and tear around town.
yes..im sure i would love yer car...were you able to get it finished before the snow fell? I couldnt handle the weather up there. pure nasty...and the roads were unbearable. austin is great man. there are some wonderful roads around here and the ladies are even better.
j.
felix...post your dyno sheets. dont be scared. its ok. I will throw down a six pack bet that your single doesnt have the guts down low like mr zooms here. his is the ONLY one I have seen to date with that kind of response. I love being proven wrong. learn something every day huh? zooms old dyno sheets are nice. Lets see your sheets mr finely tuned machine you.
zoom..i agree with rynberg...yer car seems to be tuned well for the power you are running. compared to EVERY single setup on the catenet site yours is the exception. (unless some new charts are up that Im not aware of) well done. you must have quite a beast on your hands. who tuned it?
i would have raced ya when i was in mass but you couldnt get her running in time. I would not have expected to win...though I would have loved to see how she did.
in terms of response im not talking about drag racing drop the clutch smoke the tires bizness. I dont drive my car like that...at least on a daily basis..hehe... I drive from stoplight to stop light and tear around town.
yes..im sure i would love yer car...were you able to get it finished before the snow fell? I couldnt handle the weather up there. pure nasty...and the roads were unbearable. austin is great man. there are some wonderful roads around here and the ladies are even better.
j.
11-26-03, 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by felix_is_alive
sorry bub swapped my 2-rotor 60-1 combo for a 3-rotor t76 ......to be honest i dont even care about the lag issue ,,doesnt mind me if you dont believe it fine with me either ,just i hate when people are so narrow minded , single doesn`t mean lag , whatever have fun ,
sorry bub swapped my 2-rotor 60-1 combo for a 3-rotor t76 ......to be honest i dont even care about the lag issue ,,doesnt mind me if you dont believe it fine with me either ,just i hate when people are so narrow minded , single doesn`t mean lag , whatever have fun ,
post yer sheets weinerschnitzel...lets see how your 3 rotor is doing?
you break 400 foot lbs of torque?
j
zoom...what the hell do you do anyways?
11-26-03, 01:03 PM
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they are cool...i was at an autox in san diego and watched a three rotor fd compete. he was pushing 450 to the wheels with 400 foot lbs of torque. I have never seen an rx do what he did. jesus man. pure ballz.
cant wait for the sheets.
cant wait for the sheets.
11-26-03, 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by blueskaterboy
can anyone confirm that apexi single turbo vs twins business?
can anyone confirm that apexi single turbo vs twins business?
11-26-03, 05:20 PM
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zoom...what the hell do you do anyways?
zoom...what the hell do you do anyways?
Among other things.
Get me a job where its WARM!! I need 45-55k min.