'99 rats nest replacement block
07-04-04, 06:06 PM
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Just forget it.I have a 99 jspec engine wiring harness,body wiring harnesss,the famous black box,the different positioned ignition coils,slightly different omp,99 ecu,99 boost sensor(2 bar),STOCK downpipe, and a few other things that are different from a 93-95.I tried to used them to my 93 but its nearly impossible.You have to remove and change a ton of cables incuding the removal of the dashboard so at the end i kept from the 99 engine the short block,downpipe,efini y-pipe,tranny and used the old rat nest and engine harness.If you want i can post some pics....
P.S i think the link mahjik posted displays everything i have.....
P.S i think the link mahjik posted displays everything i have.....
07-04-04, 06:10 PM
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well crap, any mechys out there that would be interested in creating such a thing? you would probably have a finger in every FD owners wallet if you did.
FDN- are you doing the pull and install or is that going to be local?
FDN- are you doing the pull and install or is that going to be local?
07-04-04, 06:47 PM
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EFS.O, you're destroying my hopes lol
So you're the guy that had the box, and the pics of US vs JDM parts were posted of?
And what's this about the the different positioned ignition coils, slightly different omp, and the 99 boost sensor? Are those required to run the black box?
su_maverick, the question is, would any mechanic think it's worthwhile to go through all the effort...you'd have to know exactly how much work it would involve, and the pros and cons of having it done. Not a spur of the moment decision.
Oh and yea my car's going to Texas to have the work done.
So you're the guy that had the box, and the pics of US vs JDM parts were posted of?
And what's this about the the different positioned ignition coils, slightly different omp, and the 99 boost sensor? Are those required to run the black box?
su_maverick, the question is, would any mechanic think it's worthwhile to go through all the effort...you'd have to know exactly how much work it would involve, and the pros and cons of having it done. Not a spur of the moment decision.
Oh and yea my car's going to Texas to have the work done.
Last edited by FDNewbie; 07-04-04 at 07:06 PM.
07-04-04, 08:40 PM
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Well, I was refering to a mechanical engineer with a handy copy of AutoCAD lying around but whatever. In my opinion, I do think there needs to be more focus on keeping the machines that are dear to our hearts out of the shop. Thats why Im interested in the MAF thread.
FDN- wow, wish I had your money, I have to stay local
FDN- wow, wish I had your money, I have to stay local
07-04-04, 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by su_maverick
Well, I was refering to a mechanical engineer with a handy copy of AutoCAD lying around but whatever. In my opinion, I do think there needs to be more focus on keeping the machines that are dear to our hearts out of the shop. Thats why Im interested in the MAF thread.
Well, I was refering to a mechanical engineer with a handy copy of AutoCAD lying around but whatever. In my opinion, I do think there needs to be more focus on keeping the machines that are dear to our hearts out of the shop. Thats why Im interested in the MAF thread.
FDN- wow, wish I had your money, I have to stay local
Besides, I wanna do it once, and do it right. Gotham is one hell of a shop...
07-04-04, 09:53 PM
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FD- no prob
As to the black box, I thought this idea was canned due to a no go from EFS. It seems like the only way would be a custom piece to fit the 93-95s. As for Apex, would AP Engineering (their training/cusom wing) possibly be interested? This of course, would require someone who has any type of connection. It would also be a useful tool for the MAF conversion.
As to the black box, I thought this idea was canned due to a no go from EFS. It seems like the only way would be a custom piece to fit the 93-95s. As for Apex, would AP Engineering (their training/cusom wing) possibly be interested? This of course, would require someone who has any type of connection. It would also be a useful tool for the MAF conversion.
07-04-04, 09:56 PM
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no no no, dont try to replace the whole damm harness, just cut and solder the newer plugs onto the older harness, use some shrink tube and it will be just as reliable as stock... but there still are vacum lines going from the box to the misc valves and such, so just doing a good vacum line job on a stock 93-95 should last quite a while.
Michael
Michael
Last edited by TechTrix; 07-04-04 at 09:59 PM.
07-04-04, 10:05 PM
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su_maverick, I don't quit that easily hehe 
Michael,
Don't take this the wrong way, but you're the only one who's saying it's very doable, so either you really know what you're talking about from 1st hand experience, or you're guessing lol. I'm just curious which one it is...because this could prove to be expensive if it doesn't go as smoothly as planned, you know?
Also, check out what's written below (from earlier in this thread):
Anyone know what the deal is w/ the coils being moved? This isn't the first time I've heard something about this. Can you just move your stock coils? And I guess you can just figure out the vaccuum hose deal while you're doing it. Diff sizes and lengths aren't really an issue...I gotta do a vaccuum hose job anyways while the engine and turbos are out...
Originally posted by TechTrix
no no no, dont try to replace the whole damm harness, just cut and solder the newer plugs onto the older harness, use some shrink tube and it will be just as reliable as stock... but there still are vacum lines going from the box to the misc valves and such, so just doing a good vacum line job on a stock 93-95 should last quite a while.
Michael
no no no, dont try to replace the whole damm harness, just cut and solder the newer plugs onto the older harness, use some shrink tube and it will be just as reliable as stock... but there still are vacum lines going from the box to the misc valves and such, so just doing a good vacum line job on a stock 93-95 should last quite a while.
Michael
Don't take this the wrong way, but you're the only one who's saying it's very doable, so either you really know what you're talking about from 1st hand experience, or you're guessing lol. I'm just curious which one it is...because this could prove to be expensive if it doesn't go as smoothly as planned, you know?
Also, check out what's written below (from earlier in this thread):
Originally posted by zUMIEz
Does anybody know if it snaps into a big grid or are there separate leads off of the harness for each of the 7 connectors?
Does anybody know if it snaps into a big grid or are there separate leads off of the harness for each of the 7 connectors?
Originally posted by j9fd3s
the actual haness looks pretty similar, its just got different plugs on the end of it. it does also route slightly differently.
they actually moved a lot of stuff around for that vaccum block, the coils are in a different place and the 6-7 remaining vacuum lines go to slightly different spots, and are different sizes
the actual haness looks pretty similar, its just got different plugs on the end of it. it does also route slightly differently.
they actually moved a lot of stuff around for that vaccum block, the coils are in a different place and the 6-7 remaining vacuum lines go to slightly different spots, and are different sizes
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07-05-04, 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by FDNewbie
EFS.O, you're destroying my hopes lol
So you're the guy that had the box, and the pics of US vs JDM parts were posted of?
And what's this about the the different positioned ignition coils, slightly different omp, and the 99 boost sensor? Are those required to run the black box?
su_maverick, the question is, would any mechanic think it's worthwhile to go through all the effort...you'd have to know exactly how much work it would involve, and the pros and cons of having it done. Not a spur of the moment decision.
Oh and yea my car's going to Texas to have the work done.
EFS.O, you're destroying my hopes lol
So you're the guy that had the box, and the pics of US vs JDM parts were posted of?
And what's this about the the different positioned ignition coils, slightly different omp, and the 99 boost sensor? Are those required to run the black box?
su_maverick, the question is, would any mechanic think it's worthwhile to go through all the effort...you'd have to know exactly how much work it would involve, and the pros and cons of having it done. Not a spur of the moment decision.
Oh and yea my car's going to Texas to have the work done.
.Anyway,the pics are not mine,but from an identical engine like the one i bought used..Now that i recall even the relays to the front of the car,above the radiator is differentl things,even the fuse box inside the car has different "routing".If you really want to dive,try to find a 99 factory wiring manual,translate it from japanese,and maybe in a couple of months you'll work this out....And what's this about the the different positioned ignition coils, slightly different omp, and the 99 boost sensor? Are those required to run the black box?
Last edited by EFS.O; 07-05-04 at 01:29 AM.