is a '95 base that rare?
09-10-13, 01:42 PM
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is a '95 base that rare?
Some of you may recognize my recent posts---I am searching for an FD.
I came across a red '95 base, 61k miles. All stock. VR
Autocheck has one mileage reporting in '99 at 10k miles.
It was in a 'light accident' (he said he has pictures) but airbags were deployed, but not replaced (looksl ike they were crammed back in though), Headlight covers are faded, a/c blows but not cold. Interior in great condition.
He says everything mechanical works.
Guy is only asking 12,500. Apparently someone from NC is already going to look at it tomorrow (allrotor93?).
Anyway, I have options---there is another one, but it is a '93 red touring--one of the most common FDs. He is at 13,500--but it is the original owner who maintained it himself. all original and everything works..including A/C, 68k miles. Personally, I like leather interiors(though the base cloth seats are pretty cool).
At the moment I am leaning towards the second option. Although it is less rare it is the original owner so there is less risk (?) involved as far as history goes. Both of them are out of state so it not a simple matter of test driving them both, unfortunately.
I can definitely afford either one---so my question:
would I be making a huge mistake letting this '95 slip through my fingers?
I know they are practically the same car, but from an enthusiast stand point, and a long-term value projection....does the '95 just make more sense? they are around the same price although the '95 is in slightly crappier condition or so it seems.
Thank you---and I appreciate all of the replies to this and other recent threads, you guys are guiding me towards my next FD!
I came across a red '95 base, 61k miles. All stock. VR
Autocheck has one mileage reporting in '99 at 10k miles.
It was in a 'light accident' (he said he has pictures) but airbags were deployed, but not replaced (looksl ike they were crammed back in though), Headlight covers are faded, a/c blows but not cold. Interior in great condition.
He says everything mechanical works.
Guy is only asking 12,500. Apparently someone from NC is already going to look at it tomorrow (allrotor93?).
Anyway, I have options---there is another one, but it is a '93 red touring--one of the most common FDs. He is at 13,500--but it is the original owner who maintained it himself. all original and everything works..including A/C, 68k miles. Personally, I like leather interiors(though the base cloth seats are pretty cool).
At the moment I am leaning towards the second option. Although it is less rare it is the original owner so there is less risk (?) involved as far as history goes. Both of them are out of state so it not a simple matter of test driving them both, unfortunately.
I can definitely afford either one---so my question:
would I be making a huge mistake letting this '95 slip through my fingers?
I know they are practically the same car, but from an enthusiast stand point, and a long-term value projection....does the '95 just make more sense? they are around the same price although the '95 is in slightly crappier condition or so it seems.
Thank you---and I appreciate all of the replies to this and other recent threads, you guys are guiding me towards my next FD!
09-10-13, 02:01 PM
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OK , touring VS base . if you are tall i'd suggest the base , I'm short but when i wear my helmet I hit my head against the sunroof Weighs less cars are more desirable for racing / because they are lighter.
if it were me i'd get the base model . But I also use aftermarket seats . if this car will be more for cruising then ***** out racing The touring is well the name says it all
if it were me i'd get the base model . But I also use aftermarket seats . if this car will be more for cruising then ***** out racing The touring is well the name says it all
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09-10-13, 02:03 PM
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somewhere there is a breakdown by year model and color, of the FD's sold in the us, but even 1993 to 1995 its like 10,000 car vs 520 cars, so the 95 is very rare
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I don't consider RS-R and Spirit R cause these car have a really "out of the way" price
RZ and RS cost like a normal good shape FD (12-17k euro) but if you don't import these from japan you can probably talk about 20-50 car already in europe
09-10-13, 04:27 PM
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I agree, if the 95 is in questionable condition than just stick with the one you know to be well taken care of.
The 93 will also have different plastics on the interior, if they are in good shape I've heard they look much better, not sure on how easily available they are to replace though. If you're taller (6'0"+) than I'd go with the base, as the roof of the touring models can be slightly cramping if you're a decent height (I imagine even more so with a helmet on).
09-10-13, 05:35 PM
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I look for my car for 12months because I wouldn't settle on a car i didn't feel right about now I am happy as a pig in ****
09-10-13, 05:40 PM
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I am 5'10 on a good day and was comfortable in my previous touring. Yes I plan for street driving and once-a-while track.
Yeah the base has a clean title accident was probably not reported. Rarity only matters to me for bragging rights, I personally don't care so much.
its just I hear older folks (esp my father) reminiscing about the now 80,000$ porches and what not he had chances to buy in the 70s for 4,000(or what ever). Id rather not be the dumb kid who picked the wrong car cuz it had a sunroof and leather!
Still, it seems like the better conditon 93 is the way to go, just because of the original owner. he said he doesnt have too many records because he did work himself--oil changes brakes etc easy stuff, and never had major issues
if the '95 was in as good condition I can see it easily worth 16000--which makes it tempting at 12k or so.
both need paint regardless, but one has no accidents (altho both have clean carfax)
I will push for the 93 and hold off on the '95.
thanks for all the input!
-Sean
Yeah the base has a clean title accident was probably not reported. Rarity only matters to me for bragging rights, I personally don't care so much.
its just I hear older folks (esp my father) reminiscing about the now 80,000$ porches and what not he had chances to buy in the 70s for 4,000(or what ever). Id rather not be the dumb kid who picked the wrong car cuz it had a sunroof and leather!
Still, it seems like the better conditon 93 is the way to go, just because of the original owner. he said he doesnt have too many records because he did work himself--oil changes brakes etc easy stuff, and never had major issues
if the '95 was in as good condition I can see it easily worth 16000--which makes it tempting at 12k or so.
both need paint regardless, but one has no accidents (altho both have clean carfax)
I will push for the 93 and hold off on the '95.
thanks for all the input!
-Sean
09-10-13, 07:11 PM
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For 93:
Base Model - Manual Transmission
Silver Stone 266
Montego Blue 319
Brilliant Black 418
Vintage Red 731
Total-----------------------------------------------> 1,734
For 94:
Base Model - Manual Transmission
Silver Stone 22
Montego Blue 116
Brilliant Black 48
Vintage Red 60
Chaste White 54
Total-------------------------------------------------> 300
For 95:
Base Model - Manual Transmission
Silver Stone 6
Montego Blue 23
Brilliant Black 21
Vintage Red 19
Chaste White 13
Total--------------------------------------------------> 82
Total from all three years:
Silver Stone 294
Montego Blue 458
Brilliant Black 487
Vintage Red 810
Chaste White 67
So a Brilliant black FD is not really rare. The rare color is the white FD
A few generalized notes here:
- The rarest Rx7's for the USA (non perlie white):
1995 Automatic in a Base model and PEP model.
Colors: White & Silver
- The rarest R1/R2 color:
1994 Silver
- The most common RX7:
1993 Vintage Red in a Touring Model with a Manual
Transmission
- The most common color:
Red (5083 cars)
Data taken from here:
3rd Gen Mazda RX-7 Production Numbers
Honestly if you are looking for collectible rarity it would be CYM. As that only came in 1993 and only as an R1 model. All other colors had multiple years and came in multiple packages (base, PEP, touring)
Edit- for the truly rare get that one perlie white that is out there. It was the mythical white whale until a few of years ago when the new owner came forward.
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...old-me-815675/
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09-10-13, 10:00 PM
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I just picked up a 95 base model VR manual car, one owner. I would say 94+ are more desirable but at this point the cars are so old.... don't know how much of a difference it makes. I really wonder if those importation numbers are correct
09-11-13, 01:37 AM
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i was more attracted to the fact that mine was a 95... i have one of the 6 silver base 95's. but, it's all on condition... mine was a mess on the outside. the inside was mint. now that i have the outside flawless, i'm quite proud of my car 
suspension is mostly squared away, motor gets all the attention now.
suspension is mostly squared away, motor gets all the attention now.
09-11-13, 08:55 AM
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I simply wouldnt buy a 93. Any 93. Mostly because the car has poor interior plastics. It was the first model year of a brand new car, and there were problems, and mistakes made in design and production. Most of those were ironed out after the first year.
A 94/95 will have slightly softer suspension, and less oversteer.
A 94/95 will have slightly softer suspension, and less oversteer.
09-11-13, 09:04 AM
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To me the only noticeable advantage of the 94/95s is the pass side airbag. In my younger years I could care less but now that is important to me for a street FD. The 94 interior plastics are a big upgrade but besides that everything else is not really worth mentioning. Not to many major changes to the cars over the 3 years.
09-11-13, 09:16 AM
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I simply wouldnt buy a 93. Any 93. Mostly because the car has poor interior plastics. It was the first model year of a brand new car, and there were problems, and mistakes made in design and production. Most of those were ironed out after the first year.
A 94/95 will have slightly softer suspension, and less oversteer.
A 94/95 will have slightly softer suspension, and less oversteer.
I plan on changing suspension parts out (bars, springs, shocks, bushings, pbs) I figured that would be not as much of an issue either.
I do like the look of the non-airbag..maybe thats just me
09-11-13, 11:31 AM
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All 1995 RX-7s are rare. I spent years looking for a '95 R2, but purchased a performance-modified base '93 in the end. If you're a collector or like things super-stock, you're going to have to look pretty hard to find a clean '95. I've seen some messed up '95s, owned by clueless idiots who think the FD is just like any ricer car... the serious '95 owners are holding on to their cars.
To me, the RX-7 is for driving, not collecting. We'd all love to keep our FDs in showroom condition, but restorations are expensive and most people don't have the skills or budget for serious body work and fabrication.
To me, the RX-7 is for driving, not collecting. We'd all love to keep our FDs in showroom condition, but restorations are expensive and most people don't have the skills or budget for serious body work and fabrication.
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