93 R1 to trade for 67 Camaro SS, deal?
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Ohh, I've always wanted a '69 Camaro myself with the styling tweaks. Go for it! This one's really something only you can decide like was said above, as that it's not really an apples to apples comparison. It's going to boil down to what you emotionaly want. I know it's probably not an option since you need to choose, but I'd want both in my garage. Best of luck!
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Yep, buy what you want. I'd say go for the SS trade just because I like old cars with huge motors but it's all up to you. I'd think I'd want to see receipts for everything going into the motor though.
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I'm really sure that I want the car, but I just want to know who's getting the better end of the deal, or is it pretty even? I was planning on fully checking out the car. The little things are what I'm real concerned with a 30+ year old car. It's still being built, so he probably doesn't have the receipts... yet. I'm going to ask to see them though, I'm leary of "internal" mods and don't take someone's word for it unless I know them very well.
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If that's a #'s matching 67 SS Camaro you'd be nuts not to swap, otherwise i'd want some cash to go with it. What I'm saying is that the value of the Camaro goes down dramaticly if that is not the original engine. I'm not sure if you could get a 67 SS with a 427 BB engine. 430 is just a bored 427.
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My $.02,
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Originally posted by twstd rx
If that's a #'s matching 67 SS Camaro you'd be nuts not to swap, otherwise i'd want some cash to go with it. What I'm saying is that the value of the Camaro goes down dramaticly if that is not the original engine. I'm not sure if you could get a 67 SS with a 427 BB engine. 430 is just a bored 427.
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If that's a #'s matching 67 SS Camaro you'd be nuts not to swap, otherwise i'd want some cash to go with it. What I'm saying is that the value of the Camaro goes down dramaticly if that is not the original engine. I'm not sure if you could get a 67 SS with a 427 BB engine. 430 is just a bored 427.
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Well, I know you were looking for who is getting the better deal and I'd have to say long term the Camaro we'll be more of a collectors item.
On a side note the fastest car I have ever ridden in or driven was a 68 ss with a built 350 and 250 shot of nitrous 10.33@135, but it was stripped too.
If you feel the need for some good ole american muscle you can't go wrong with a 60's camaro. Good Luck!
On a side note the fastest car I have ever ridden in or driven was a 68 ss with a built 350 and 250 shot of nitrous 10.33@135, but it was stripped too.
If you feel the need for some good ole american muscle you can't go wrong with a 60's camaro. Good Luck!
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It's hard to say what the Camaro is worth. I've seen all original SS's from that era go for 20k+ and beat up ones go for less than 5k. You have to make the call. The car looks great!
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Originally posted by twstd rx
It's hard to say what the Camaro is worth. I've seen all original SS's from that era go for 20k+ and beat up ones go for less than 5k. You have to make the call. The car looks great!
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It's hard to say what the Camaro is worth. I've seen all original SS's from that era go for 20k+ and beat up ones go for less than 5k. You have to make the call. The car looks great!
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It's hard to say what the Camaro is worth. I've seen all original SS's from that era go for 20k+ and beat up ones go for less than 5k. You have to make the call. The car looks great!
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I offered him this deal... my car for his car and $3k. It's pretty raced out, so that brings the value down. I looked around on the web and the consensus(sp?) that I got was that raced out, pretty good condition 67 SS's are worth about $14, give or take $1000 on every circumstance that I seen. Someone said earlier that non-matching numbers really bring the price down. I noticed that the more I looked around. I seen an average of up to $10k MORE for a matching numbers car than non-matching.
I offered him this deal... my car for his car and $3k. It's pretty raced out, so that brings the value down. I looked around on the web and the consensus(sp?) that I got was that raced out, pretty good condition 67 SS's are worth about $14, give or take $1000 on every circumstance that I seen. Someone said earlier that non-matching numbers really bring the price down. I noticed that the more I looked around. I seen an average of up to $10k MORE for a matching numbers car than non-matching.
His and 3k for your's sounds reasonable. You have to decide if that car is a $14k car. From the pic it could be. I have mucle car roots, 72ss Nova, 69 ss Chevelle, 66 mustang coupe and a few more but ultimately you have to make the call. If the car is clean and he takes the deal, I'd say go for it. I love my 7 but I'd have a hard time passing this deal if it's as good as it appears to be. Make damn sure you find out for sure what's going into this motor. I've seen many so called built motors that weren't much more than stock with bolt ons.
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Originally posted by twstd rx
First, sorry for the double post!
His and 3k for your's sounds reasonable. You have to decide if that car is a $14k car. From the pic it could be. I have mucle car roots, 72ss Nova, 69 ss Chevelle, 66 mustang coupe and a few more but ultimately you have to make the call. If the car is clean and he takes the deal, I'd say go for it. I love my 7 but I'd have a hard time passing this deal if it's as good as it appears to be. Make damn sure you find out for sure what's going into this motor. I've seen many so called built motors that weren't much more than stock with bolt ons.
Good luck
First, sorry for the double post!
His and 3k for your's sounds reasonable. You have to decide if that car is a $14k car. From the pic it could be. I have mucle car roots, 72ss Nova, 69 ss Chevelle, 66 mustang coupe and a few more but ultimately you have to make the call. If the car is clean and he takes the deal, I'd say go for it. I love my 7 but I'd have a hard time passing this deal if it's as good as it appears to be. Make damn sure you find out for sure what's going into this motor. I've seen many so called built motors that weren't much more than stock with bolt ons.
Good luck
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Originally posted by Kahren
the 1st gen camaros are not fast cars stock, they ran at something in teh high 14's area as did almost any other muscle car. modded is a diff story, u can go as fast as u want depending on your wallet. as far as handling goes u will not come close to the rx7.
the 1st gen camaros are not fast cars stock, they ran at something in teh high 14's area as did almost any other muscle car. modded is a diff story, u can go as fast as u want depending on your wallet. as far as handling goes u will not come close to the rx7.
they suck gas
they break
they handle bad
old technology
GOOD THINGS ABOUT OLD CARS
cool to drive
torque and good amounts of it
simple to work on
cheap to work on
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can't tell too much from a picture, but what you can see looks pretty sweet
sounds like a even deal with the cash if you're getting good stuff inside the engine... matching numbers would be nice but I'm guessing that's not the case... but do you want a car to drive? or sit and worry about all the time because it's "an investment"?
How about mileage on the chassis? and the interior condition?
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sounds like a even deal with the cash if you're getting good stuff inside the engine... matching numbers would be nice but I'm guessing that's not the case... but do you want a car to drive? or sit and worry about all the time because it's "an investment"?
How about mileage on the chassis? and the interior condition?
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Oh don't know if this has been said but you might want to see what kind of condition the quarters are in, look in the inner wheel wells, look in the trunk, etc. Just in case there might be any rust/holes, etc. It sounds like a good car but just in case. You might even want to ask if all the body work is original or not. That may let you know if there is any bondo in the car at all from repaired panels, etc.
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It's not numbers matching, I'm not worried about that to much.
It'll be used to drive around occasionally, but not ALL the time. I like to actually drive my fun cars.
According to the owner, the car's exterior is in tip top shape, but he said it could use some paint though. It has some chips and etc in it.
It's suppuosed to be out of the shop in a couple weeks. So I'll get to find out then what condition it's really in.
It'll be used to drive around occasionally, but not ALL the time. I like to actually drive my fun cars.
According to the owner, the car's exterior is in tip top shape, but he said it could use some paint though. It has some chips and etc in it.
It's suppuosed to be out of the shop in a couple weeks. So I'll get to find out then what condition it's really in.
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Looks like we're in the same boat but mine departed awhile before yours. I now have a 67 RS without an engine and tranny, I picked it up (rust free) for 2600 bucks. Paint and an engine and trans and I have a bad *** car for 8 grand. I think if you sold the FD straight up, bought a Camaro like I did and restore it yourself you'll have more fun... And if your not the resto type you just like driving then pick up one without an engine and tranny. One thing to look for on this car is the frame rails above the rear end. They tend to rust quicker then any part of the car for some reason. Also make sure you find one that hasn't been monkeyed with, mine had a non-stock heater core that the guy cut the firewall to fit, he fucked up the dash, cut the rear speaker holes to fit larger speakers and hacked away at the tranny tunnel and then tried to weld it back up... The guy really sucked at doing it too. Luckly mine'll look good since I got me a MIG welder!!! Who-hooo. Anyways man if you think your FD is worth more then 12 grand I'd say look for another one... But since it has 160K miles on the body it might be a good deal. From the pic the resto looks pretty good, check to see if all the body panels line up and take a soft magnet to everything to check for bondo. Whatever you do, keep motoring!