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Old 05-05-03, 05:51 PM
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Exclamation 70 in/lbs <> 70 ft/lbs

Got the dumbass award today. While installing my efini y pipe I decided to go get my service manual for torque recommendations. I notice that the torque recommendations are 70 lbs. (to myself I say damn - wheels lugs are like 80-90 but figure that boost leakage might be a prob/etc.). So I go back and take my most likely properly adjusted bolts and bust out my torque wrench....

About 1 crank into it I spin the bolt off... I call Chris at RP and he's like that is actually 70 inch/lbs....

What a PITA. I searched the forum and found that others have done this on and around the engine block with surprising frequency. Must be those mil spec studs that Mazda uses.
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You wouldn't have problems if you used Newton Meters instead.
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Yeah - I agree - US measurment standards are wacked from volume to distance to mass.

However, newtons were on the service manual and I was actually oblivious as my torque wrench had newtons as well. Guess I was so convinced that the lbs was right that I didn't believe that the 79 newtons was correct on my wrench (where as the manual stated 7.8 newtons) or figured that my wrench didn't have a decimal point so the entire number could be displayed in the torque "window" on the wrench...

Chalk this up to a learning experience..

So the next question is.. when I get the new stud, what is the best way to insert it without messing up the threads (already i removed the broken one)????
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The problem isn't Mazda fasteners, it is people with torque wrenches. Man 70ft-lbs on a small bolt like that, no wonder it broke.

Nothing on the motor really needs to be torqued more than snug. I'm forgetting the exact torques but I think the exhaust manifold is something like 25ft lbs.
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