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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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Question 5 speed transmission question.........

My car runs exellent except for the fact that when I power shift or shift fast at high RPM, the gears are notchy and wont shift properly.
I cannot afford or even have time for a transmission rebuild right now, but as far as I know the transmission fluid has never been changed.
The car was never raced or seriously abused when I bought it with the first owner being a woman =) and the second owner being a guy who hardly ever drove the car.
The car shifts very well if I drive normal, but is notchy when I power shift.
Anyway with this being said, will flushing my transmission fluid help the rough shifting? I know it wont "magically" cure my problem but, is it gonna help?
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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It certainly can't hurt to change the fluid! My tranny got significantly smoother when I changed mine... I used Neo Oil 75W90 HD in both the tranny and diff.

http://www.neosyntheticoil.com/gear_oil.html

You might as well get a gallon and do both the tranny and diff together.... as a gallon is the perfect volume.
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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if you cant afford to buy a tranny....you should probably stop abusing the one you have now. it will get worse.


....its always good to change the fluid....but i wouldnt count on it solving your issue....what clutch do you have?
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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+1, power shifting is extremely hard on the tranny and you shouldn't be doing it unless you're prepared to have it break at any given moment.
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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Well if it has problems now they can only continue to get worse. You can try changing the fluid, but in all I would start saving.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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I do not abuse my transmission in case your wondering. I just like to bring the rpms up to about 4k when I shift or 4500k, but I certainly do not race all over the city. It feels notchy when I shift normal sometimes into 3rd gear, and 4th gear.
I have a stock clutch and it was replaced just before I bought the car. It really sucks that I cant shift at high rpm 6000, but for now all I want is for it to shift smooth if I drive normal/spirited city driving, not racing.
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Originally Posted by Ernesto13B
My car runs exellent except for the fact that when I power shift or shift fast at high RPM, the gears are notchy and wont shift properly.

The car shifts very well if I drive normal, but is notchy when I power shift.
Originally Posted by Ernesto13B
I do not abuse my transmission in case your wondering.


Is anyone else here confused??......POWER SHIFTING is ABUSE.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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Is anyone else here confused??......POWER SHIFTING is ABUSE.
Ha, was wondering the same thing myself...
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 11:00 PM
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ok ok thats my fault, im NOT power shifting. Or maby I dont know what it means. All im doig is trying to shift at high rpm and the car will NOT do it period so I do not force it
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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if power shifting means that im not using the clutch to shift then I messed up, cause I AM usng the clutch. Maby this is a lil more clear?
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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I figured that is what you meant. Taking it up to redline in one gear and shifting fast into the next gear, using the clutch properly.

Just spend ~40-50 bucks and change the fluid, it can't really hurt.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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alright im gonna do it! When I do decide to flush it, I will let everyone know the results. Thanks for the help
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Ernesto13B
ok ok thats my fault, im NOT power shifting. Or maby I dont know what it means. All im doig is trying to shift at high rpm and the car will NOT do it period so I do not force it

.....OK...lol...no problem...

....it is natural for a transmission to get increasingly dificult to shift as you rev higher....the synchronizers are what allow the tranny to even shift without gears being matched ....so i would say if the tranny is REALLY getting bad that would be the culprit....


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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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When shifting at high rpms it is normal to feel a little more resistance. But it should only mean that you can't shift as fast - just push gently into the gear and if the synchronizers are functioning properly it will go in without much force. It will just take a moment. More accurate rev matching definitely helps.

If your synchros aren't getting much bite, I suggest draining the gear oil and replacing with a GL-4 oil like Redline MT-90 or Amsoil MTG. Most gear oils are GL-5 nowadays, and most GL-5s make the synchros perform less efficiently. In fact some GL-5s will attack the synchros as cause more rapid wear. The right GL-4 should help the synchros get more bite.

If the gear oil doesn't help and you're shifting as you should, then you need to get the tranny looked at. Might need a rebuild.

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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 01:00 AM
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I think that it's possible that the clutch is not releasing all the way. This makes the tranny work harder to match revs up on the gears, particularly at higher RPM.

I would start by replacing the trans fluid (it's good to do it anyhow!).

If that doesn't fix it, I would try to verify that the clutch is releasing fully. Keep in mind - it was just replaced, right? I wonder if it was not properly adjusted. If you stop the car and then slowly put it into first gear while holding the clutch down, does the car creep forwards?

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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 05:50 AM
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Brian, you're right. This poster is the one who is decribing clutch hydraulic trouble in another thread. These are probably one and the same issue.

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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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i am currently not driving the car, because the clutch pedal is going to the floor. It started sinking to the floor after I replaced the leaky clutch master cylinder( and bled the system of course)Im thinking the new master cylinder may have been a "shock" to the hydraulic system, and put a lot of stress on my slave cylinder, which MAY have cause it to go bad.When the system is bled, the pedal feels firm for a little while (10-15min) then sinks again to the floor

This may also be why the transmission is shifting rough.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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A bad clutch system will absolutely cause rough shifts. Or prevent them entirely.
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