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Old 09-25-11, 09:30 AM
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To me, an AWD FD is just as bad as a V8 one... Why? Why ruin a fantastic sports car? I love high horse power, well engineered, outside the box thinking and something built to a higher standard. But, there are somethings that I believe make a "thing" worse, and AWD or a V8 in an FD are two of them.

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Right, that's why you came into this thread and posted some nonsense about unicorns. And, started another ridiculously unwarranted thread about importing a JDM FD. Because, you have years of racing experience.
Post up some photos of all your amazing adventures.
Want me to prove it to you? Lets go in ur little mazda to any race track you choose, and I'll show you how crappy you are behind the wheel. PM me if your down, you'll earn skills and get a cool lesson free of charge.
The reason why I asked about imports is because I got curious on the subject thats all, I never stated I was gonna or wanted to do it. I said I wanted it so bad meaning it to be possible.
Have you taken a look at Full Race's awd S14? google it. I thought if Nissan guys can turn the S14 into a true road track killer, MAAAYBBE somebody off the rotary community had done it too. Thats how I got to this old thread.
It is possible, doable, and truly the way to go if you ever wanna see an FD beating the awd sedans out there.
About weight, trust me, when you build a race car you move weight up n down to wherever u need it. You can still get the car balanced even adding the front weight needed. Btw, why do you think having the engine so further forward is the only way? Is it because your reference is the EVO? Dude take a look at the awd S14 time attack Full Race guys built. The inline 6 is where it has to be, not sticking out of the front bumper.
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Originally Posted by Gorilla RE
To me, an AWD FD is just as bad as a V8 one... Why? Why ruin a fantastic sports car? I love high horse power, well engineered, outside the box thinking and something built to a higher standard. But, there are somethings that I believe make a "thing" worse, and AWD or a V8 in an FD are two of them.

-J
I agree. I wouldnt have an awd fd as a daily driver. The idea is only to compete n actually win sometime. Being 2nd is good.. but all the time? beaten by a taller sedan?
Now the V8 FDs are completely childish. Or you can call them gay. Cause the dude who built it, all he had in mind was stepping on the gas, hold the steering tight, and shift gears. Same as we use to do back in middle school when stealing our dad's mustangs. Real man do road course and drive stick shift. The rest are ricers.
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Originally Posted by JfEdS3UsS
Ive driven ngt's gt3 cup cars, I've driven tons of go Karts, Ive driven Argentinian TC2000 cars, Argentine TRV6 as well, Ive driven formula Ford, Formula Mazda, etc.
About your post count, what difference does that make? Does that makes you a better man, a better driver, a better mechanic? while you were behind a monitor writting 2k+ posts I was driving real race cars.


Here's the thing about the internet, you can't hide!

Here you are on the Lincolvn vs Cadillac forum looking for control arms:
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You've changed your username from "JfEdS3UsS" to "LS6_5SPD" over there, so let's google that and see what we find...

Oh look! Here you are on the Playstation Network asking for driving tips for GranTurismo 5:
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So please, go on and tell us more about all these race cars you've put through the paces around Tsukuba...
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Old 09-25-11, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JfEdS3UsS
Now the V8 FDs are completely childish. Or you can call them gay. Cause the dude who built it, all he had in mind was stepping on the gas, hold the steering tight, and shift gears. Same as we use to do back in middle school when stealing our dad's mustangs. Real man do road course and drive stick shift. The rest are ricers.
Looks like everyone with a V8 FD just steps on the gas and holds onto the steering wheel tight..Right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFY00...el_video_title
Example A

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Want me to prove it to you? Lets go in ur little mazda to any race track you choose, and I'll show you how crappy you are behind the wheel. PM me if your down, you'll earn skills and get a cool lesson free of charge.
I could use some lessons please...I always take advice from people who are full of themselves so you would be a perfect candidate. I've driven a few parade laps around a race track does that count? Ya know...Pretty much everyone I know who actually competes or attends track days are very modest about their driving abilities, they don't talk about how good they are behind the wheel. Sound to me like you're just full of ****.

BTW last time I checked there wasn't any AWD cars in the following race series... Formula 1, American Le Mans Series, Le mans series, Grand Am Rolex series, Continental tires series, FIA GT championship or any professional race series that I know of minus JGTC...Maybe AWD is just a bandaid for poor driving ability. I didn't realize time attacks were the pinnacle of motorsport these days.
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Originally Posted by JfEdS3UsS
I agree. I wouldnt have an awd fd as a daily driver. The idea is only to compete n actually win sometime. Being 2nd is good.. but all the time? beaten by a taller sedan?
Now the V8 FDs are completely childish. Or you can call them gay. Cause the dude who built it, all he had in mind was stepping on the gas, hold the steering tight, and shift gears. Same as we use to do back in middle school when stealing our dad's mustangs. Real man do road course and drive stick shift. The rest are ricers.
You make no sense....

And I thought this thread was bad 10 years ago.
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Originally Posted by Scrub
Looks like everyone with a V8 FD just steps on the gas and holds onto the steering wheel tight..Right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFY00...el_video_title
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I could use some lessons please...I always take advice from people who are full of themselves so you would be a perfect candidate. I've driven a few parade laps around a race track does that count? Ya know...Pretty much everyone I know who actually competes or attends track days are very modest about their driving abilities, they don't talk about how good they are behind the wheel. Sound to me like you're just full of ****.

BTW last time I checked there wasn't any AWD cars in the following race series... Formula 1, American Le Mans Series, Le mans series, Grand Am Rolex series, Continental tires series, FIA GT championship or any professional race series that I know of minus JGTC...Maybe AWD is just a bandaid for poor driving ability. I didn't realize time attacks were the pinnacle of motorsport these days.
Im not the best bro, but I know stuff not everybody knows from being close to pro drivers and drive true race cars. I never said I was good, but if you n I take your very own car, the one you know better than nobody, I will still clock faster laps than you. I dont need to prove it to myself, but if you think Im full of that and want to make sure, lets do it.
Time attack is nothing like those u listed. Time attack is about a single lap where you dont need to worry about tire wear, brake wear, etc. Plus anybody can drive there as long as you do a quick course and get a license. Plus, there you can truly compete with the car you actually love, and then drive it back home.
Anyways, Im already done with your dumbness. If you wanna challenge my driving skills, challenge accepted.
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Old 09-25-11, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JfEdS3UsS
Im not the best bro, but I know stuff not everybody knows from being close to pro drivers and drive true race cars. I never said I was good, but if you n I take your very own car, the one you know better than nobody, I will still clock faster laps than you. I dont need to prove it to myself,
That statement made me

You cant be serious?

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Old 09-25-11, 09:51 PM
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AWD would add at least 200 lbs, if it were even feasible. AWD might make sense on a heavy vehicle but there are few light weight sports cars that use an AWD system.

I've seen so many vehicles recently running AWD systems. It sure seems to help a lot on launch but they are usually coupled with a host of electronic systems the help keep the car in-line and on track.

Here's to driver skill and a proper sports car.
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Old 09-25-11, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JfEdS3UsS
Anyways, Im already done with your dumbness. If you wanna challenge my driving skills, challenge accepted.
There's no way in hell you're driving my car.

oh and time attack has an AWD, FWD and RWD class.....I'm not your bro either, I'm Dan.
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Hahahaha I needed this laugh!!! Dan, it looks like you had better watch out!

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Wow, it's amazing how people can be so full of themselves and make up so much stories, for what, recognition....Be yourself man, people will befriend you more and maybe you won't have to change your username thinking you can hide when you can't.
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Does this guy think he's Takumi or something??

BTW, I never recall Full-Race actively competing their AWD S14, it was merely a show piece designed to show off what they can do.

And its not a true S14.... it uses the entire undercarriage of an R33 with the body of an S14 welded on top of it. and they used LOTS of sheet metal to disguise what they CANT do and passed it off as "because race car".

The car NEVER saw a race track and if it did, im sure it didnt perform the way anyone expected for a 600hp 240sx bodied R33 ie SLOW and didnt handle for crap, because the original structural integrity of the R33 was compromised.
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For the record, I'm happy Scrub recognizes the quality of the V8 conversion.
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Originally Posted by Gorilla RE
To me, an AWD FD is just as bad as a V8 one... Why? Why ruin a fantastic sports car? I love high horse power, well engineered, outside the box thinking and something built to a higher standard. But, there are somethings that I believe make a "thing" worse, and AWD or a V8 in an FD are two of them.

-J
I can see AWD, because of the weight disadvantage, but you're obviously uneducated on the V8 swap. 0 downsides.
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I can see AWD, because of the weight disadvantage, but you're obviously uneducated on the V8 swap. 0 downsides.
Yes, zer0... You've obviously got my number

p.s. point missed!

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Here's the thing about the internet, you can't hide!
Well played!

This has turned into a great thread!
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This guy comes to our forum and talks about AWD RX7s and RHD RX7s when he does not even own one...
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Originally Posted by cabaynes


Here's the thing about the internet, you can't hide!

Here you are on the Lincolvn vs Cadillac forum looking for control arms:
http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?t=59810

You've changed your username from "JfEdS3UsS" to "LS6_5SPD" over there, so let's google that and see what we find...

Oh look! Here you are on the Playstation Network asking for driving tips for GranTurismo 5:
http://community.us.playstation.com/thread/3392147
http://community.us.playstation.com/...24997#30824997

So please, go on and tell us more about all these race cars you've put through the paces around Tsukuba...
haha... well played Charlie, well played.

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Looks like everyone with a V8 FD just steps on the gas and holds onto the steering wheel tight..Right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFY00...el_video_title
Example A



I could use some lessons please...I always take advice from people who are full of themselves so you would be a perfect candidate. I've driven a few parade laps around a race track does that count? Ya know...Pretty much everyone I know who actually competes or attends track days are very modest about their driving abilities, they don't talk about how good they are behind the wheel. Sound to me like you're just full of ****.

BTW last time I checked there wasn't any AWD cars in the following race series... Formula 1, American Le Mans Series, Le mans series, Grand Am Rolex series, Continental tires series, FIA GT championship or any professional race series that I know of minus JGTC...Maybe AWD is just a bandaid for poor driving ability. I didn't realize time attacks were the pinnacle of motorsport these days.
Cool video... I don't know about the driver though

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There's no way in hell you're driving my car.

oh and time attack has an AWD, FWD and RWD class.....I'm not your bro either, I'm Dan.
I literally almost spit water all over my screen.
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Here's the thing about the internet, you can't hide!
that was perfect....


Originally Posted by Scrub
There's no way in hell you're driving my car.

oh and time attack has an AWD, FWD and RWD class.....I'm not your bro either, I'm Dan.
when he's done can I get a hot lap bro???
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Originally Posted by JfEdS3UsS
Time attack is about a single lap where you dont need to worry about tire wear, brake wear, etc. Plus anybody can drive there as long as you do a quick course and get a license. Plus, there you can truly compete with the car you actually love, and then drive it back home.
Anyways, Im already done with your dumbness. If you wanna challenge my driving skills, challenge accepted.
Really?! Holy crap! I guess not with those settings turned off...also set collision damage to off too A,A,B,B select, start.

Got some things that concern me. One is that you are so confident in your driving ability that you can beat anyone around a track (unless theyre AWD, then youre screwed) mainly because youve BEEN AROUND pro drivers? Umbrella girls are around pro drivers a lot too but I dont see them putting down any hot laps. Another thing is your challenges....how in the world are you going to pull those off? Wait wait wait... I know what you meant, nevermind. I completely 100% accept your challenge....are we doing this on PSN or xbox live? ****, Ill even accept it in real life, name your track and we'll use my daily bc youll never drive my FD as long as you keep bashing the fact that its RWD and acting like a tard(my BMW is RWD too, hope that wont be a problem). I await the track and date.
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really?! Holy crap! I guess not with those settings turned off...also set collision damage to off too a,a,b,b select, start.
hahahahahaha

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umbrella girls are around pro drivers a lot too but i dont see them putting down any hot laps.
haaaaaaaaahahahaha
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Only chiming in because this JfEdS3UsS guy is such a moron.



A quick Google of his username reveals that his other internet alias is LS6_5SPD.
http://www.google.com/search?q=JfEdS3UsS

Which leads you to this thread:
http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/sho...d.php?p=600207

He must have changed it from JfEdS3UsS to LS6_5SPD at some point in time because there are forum posts where the original post shows LS6_5SPD but the quoted post shows JfEdS3UsS (meaning he got the forum admins to change his username at some point).

With that established, a quick search of LS6_5SPD's (aka JfEdS3UsS') forum posts and profile shows that he rocks a 2000 V6 Lincoln.

So, by the way, LS6 doesn't stand for the Corvette LS6...in his case it stands for Lincoln LS V6

Here's his profile on that forum:
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Vehicle Brand You Own
Lincoln
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State of Residence
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LS6 baby Stick shift
Engine type and displacement
Duratec V6

Mods:
K&N replacement air filter.
Motorcraft Performance Shocks.
Sprint Springs.
Drilled/Slotted Disc Brakes, Ceramic Pads, Stainless lines.
Nitto NT555 255/45
Full Aluminum Valve Stems
I mean, the guy can't even figure out how to tell if the engine in his car is the one it came with from the factory.

Boys, it sounds like we're dealing with a Professional. Someone get this man a RHD AWD FD3S.
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