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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 01:23 AM
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Another great site to check out that is doing/trying a 4-rotor swap is Autotech Motorsports and they have made a custom 4-rotor enigne dubbed the 23a...that would be your best bet...here is the link: http://www.autotechmotorsports.com/projects-23afd.htm
BTW They also have video clips to go along with it...Have fun and enjoy!!!
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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Thanks guys, I appreciate all the help. Better start working on my budget...lol.
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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1000hp+ 13B, here's pics:





and no, the 800hp label on the site is inaccurate, it has produced more since being installed in the car
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by 93BlackFD
the 800hp label on the site is inaccurate, it has produced more since being installed in the car
Where did you find that tidbit of information? The latest update on their site is May 2003. The 3-rotor is 1,000+ horsepower. I'll believe the 2-rotor PP engine was 1,000+ horsepower when I see the dyno sheet.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 94rx7
You guys are missing the point of this car 1.3 liter two turbos. a crap load of power. tweak the 13b and it can make over 1000 hp before you......
how many 13Bs out there even have 500? and i wonder how long that motor is going to last with the alleged 1000hp.

anyway. assuming i had the money and did as much work as i could myself...

sorry to bring this back from the dead but i was wondering how much would it weigh? i mean it would be minus all the turbo bullshit...

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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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Which fantasy? The 1000hp 2 rotor, or the 4 rotor motor.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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that is a beautiful engine.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 12:08 AM
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Lots of bullshit floating around in this thread. Jimlab brings it somewhat back to reality at least.

93blackfd/brian thompson, before you reply again in this thread, why don't you mail me my parts, you little weasel? would save me a trip down to georgia to thank you for the horrendous job you did "powdercoating" all my parts.

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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by skunks
if a 3rotor cost about 40k, guess how much a 4rotor would cost you... also, nobody makes 4rotors for retail sale. remember a 3 rotor engien can be had for 2-4k alone...

i actually know someone which could actually make a 26b fit in a fd but i doubt he would ever go thru all the trouble and money as a V8 can easily fit inside and put out even more hp.
youre out of your mind, if a 13b can make 450 hp easily, reliably then couldnt a 26b make 900hp easily, reliably? show me a v8 that can do that completely street. youre nuts. 26b > any v8
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 01:05 AM
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 93BlackFD
1000hp+ 13B, here's pics:





and no, the 800hp label on the site is inaccurate, it has produced more since being installed in the car
So, um, how much of the fender was sawed out to make that fit? Or did we just chop off the front clip and go tubi-style? I mean, jesus christ, I had enough problem making a pair of TB25's fit...
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 01:19 AM
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 09:04 AM
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Well, someone's got money to burn... especially on plumbing. I wonder how many thousands were spent on earl's stuff...
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Barban
youre out of your mind, if a 13b can make 450 hp easily, reliably then couldnt a 26b make 900hp easily, reliably? show me a v8 that can do that completely street. youre nuts. 26b > any v8

I have heard of a 4 cylinder that made 700 hp 3 years ago, ran 10's at the track, (driving to and from). Now he is running 8's and still competes in the stock class.

900 hp on a v8 that is streetable is not unheard of. It would definately last longer than any rotary combination also.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by xb2002
wow!! great way to ruin an FD if ive ever seen one. i dont know what to say. well this thread is really about having fun so go ahead and dream everyone. on the topic of dreaming ill do some now. wouldnt it be great to make some e shaft inserts, where you could build an eshaft to however many rotors youd like.... you just keep tacking them on the end... i think that would be fun.

ok back to reality, what is the use of 4 rotors? just go with a 20b or V8 conversion. anything past that is just serious overkill! i dont see how you could get traction with that thing if it had a turbo... and it would weigh the car down even more than the lead weight of a 20b . i guess on the plus side you can change your spark plugs from INSIDE THE CAR . anyway, looks fun but really its not necessary at all, but then when it comes to cars "necessary" is quite a relative word.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rextacy
I have heard of a 4 cylinder that made 700 hp 3 years ago, ran 10's at the track, (driving to and from). Now he is running 8's and still competes in the stock class.

900 hp on a v8 that is streetable is not unheard of. It would definately last longer than any rotary combination also.
Yup, that is Shepherd's 8 second AWD 1st gen. eclipse.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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Yup, that is Shepherd's 8 second AWD 1st gen. eclipse.

Bravo
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RotorMotor
wow!! great way to ruin an FD if ive ever seen one. i dont know what to say. well this thread is really about having fun so go ahead and dream everyone. on the topic of dreaming ill do some now. wouldnt it be great to make some e shaft inserts, where you could build an eshaft to however many rotors youd like.... you just keep tacking them on the end... i think that would be fun.

ok back to reality, what is the use of 4 rotors? just go with a 20b or V8 conversion. anything past that is just serious overkill! i dont see how you could get traction with that thing if it had a turbo... and it would weigh the car down even more than the lead weight of a 20b . i guess on the plus side you can change your spark plugs from INSIDE THE CAR . anyway, looks fun but really its not necessary at all, but then when it comes to cars "necessary" is quite a relative word.

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It's not a street car. The owners name is Glenn, he is building a 4 rotor to compete in some special saloon class. Look here for more photo's and info

http://www.4rotor.com/
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forum...1&referrerid=1
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Barban
youre out of your mind, if a 13b can make 450 hp easily, reliably then couldnt a 26b make 900hp easily, reliably? show me a v8 that can do that completely street. youre nuts. 26b > any v8
You've got to be kidding. A 550+ CID big block could make that much horsepower (with a MUCH broader torque curve) naturally aspirated.

Here's just a small sampling from only one engine builder...

555 CID, 895 HP, $9,995
http://www.shafiroff.com/555_sportsengine.asp

598 CID, 955 HP, $10,995
http://www.shafiroff.com/598_sportsengine.asp

565 CID, 995 HP, $12,950
http://www.shafiroff.com/555_bigduke.asp

598 CID, 1,065 HP, $13,995
http://www.shafiroff.com/632_bigduke.asp

With forced induction? Forget about it.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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I agree with Jim - I have even seen naturally aspirated small blocks with close to 1000 HP. And guess what - they weigh less than a 4 rotor.
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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I did some reasearch one day when I decided I wanted to run a 4 rotor motor in my 1st gen... I gave the kiwi guys a call and I beleave they wanted $4500 us for all the bolts the eshaft and some cast irons... Thats not rotor housings, rotors, 2 cast irons, I think it included gaskets, but not apex seals... Thats SPENDY... looking at a EASY 6k for the block its self less the manifolds I would have to have made... and have to set up some kind of a ignition system and fuel system... I would be looking at 10k? if I WAS DOING THE WORK... 4 rotors are not cheap... And knowing my luck I would put everything togather and it would blow up... Its a better idea just to go out and do a 20b swap... Those are EXPENSIVE AS HELL TOO...
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
You've got to be kidding. A 550+ CID big block could make that much horsepower (with a MUCH broader torque curve) naturally aspirated.

Here's just a small sampling from only one engine builder...

555 CID, 895 HP, $9,995
http://www.shafiroff.com/555_sportsengine.asp

598 CID, 955 HP, $10,995
http://www.shafiroff.com/598_sportsengine.asp

565 CID, 995 HP, $12,950
http://www.shafiroff.com/555_bigduke.asp

598 CID, 1,065 HP, $13,995
http://www.shafiroff.com/632_bigduke.asp

With forced induction? Forget about it.
Damn, that rocks. I've probably already spent $10k on this turbo thing anyway. Sad, isn't it?
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