2017 RX Name Petition
11-03-15, 09:15 PM
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2017 RX Name Petition
What does everyone think about making a petition to Mazda to name the new RX the RX9 instead of the new RX7. They've already moved to the RX8 . At this stage I believe our word could still have a little bit of say. Doing so would preserve the value and collectability of our RX7's . I for one would hate to see my FD end up as the 4th Gen Camaro did with the release of the 5th Gen.
11-03-15, 09:45 PM
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My two cents...
If they make this new model it should only carry the RX-7 name if it lives up to the legacy and purist character of the first three generations. If it is going to be something different like the RX-8 clearly was, then call it RX-9 or whatever.
I don't believe that a true and pure fourth generation RX-7 will hurt any of the previous gens, but if done right will instead rekindle the rotary love that the first generation FB created and that will only be a good thing.
If they make this new model it should only carry the RX-7 name if it lives up to the legacy and purist character of the first three generations. If it is going to be something different like the RX-8 clearly was, then call it RX-9 or whatever.
I don't believe that a true and pure fourth generation RX-7 will hurt any of the previous gens, but if done right will instead rekindle the rotary love that the first generation FB created and that will only be a good thing.
11-03-15, 10:18 PM
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On occasion I will run into people that have no understanding of the RX-7 world and sometimes they will ask me questions like what makes an RX-8 better than an RX-7 etc. The fact that the number 8 is larger than 7 implies that its better, especially in the car world. Calling the RX-8 (which is inferior to the FD) the way they did was a great marketing trick. Newer car with a larger number = better...in the mind of an average consumer. Mazda being a corporation after all will probably go for RX-9 as its the "safer" option.
Only car enthusiast know that the 7 is in fact better than the 8. The average consumer does not. If an average buyer goes into the dealership in 2018, for example, and sees a new RX-7 for sale they might think its inferior to the previously available RX-8. But when they walk in and see RX-9...uuuu that must be better than the RX-8! Honey we're buying it!
I think its naive to think that Mazda wants to cater to the existing RX-7 owners at the risk of alienating potential new customers. As every other corporation Mazda wants to expand their potential market base, and when it comes down to the marketing department you know they are aiming for RX-9, its safe, it makes sense in a corporate environment and 9>8>7.
I personally don't care what they call it, I will buy it even if its called an RX-6...
And I think is amusing how FD owners are easily freaked out about their FD not gaining huge market value over time or even worse losing value because of some potential threat. Heh I'll be rolling in my grave if my ungrateful grandchildren sell my old FD for a fortune...
Only car enthusiast know that the 7 is in fact better than the 8. The average consumer does not. If an average buyer goes into the dealership in 2018, for example, and sees a new RX-7 for sale they might think its inferior to the previously available RX-8. But when they walk in and see RX-9...uuuu that must be better than the RX-8! Honey we're buying it!
I think its naive to think that Mazda wants to cater to the existing RX-7 owners at the risk of alienating potential new customers. As every other corporation Mazda wants to expand their potential market base, and when it comes down to the marketing department you know they are aiming for RX-9, its safe, it makes sense in a corporate environment and 9>8>7.
I personally don't care what they call it, I will buy it even if its called an RX-6...
And I think is amusing how FD owners are easily freaked out about their FD not gaining huge market value over time or even worse losing value because of some potential threat. Heh I'll be rolling in my grave if my ungrateful grandchildren sell my old FD for a fortune...
11-03-15, 10:27 PM
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IMO it depends on the intentions of the car.
If its just to be "the next rotary powered car", then the RX9 it is.
If its intentions are to be a no-compromise sports car, then it should be the 4th gen Rx7..it just better not let us (and the rx7 name) down!! It had better put some serious hurt on the competition.
I just thank god they called the Rx8 the Rx8 and not the Rx7...imagine how horrible that would be...people with their "new (weak) rx7" thinking it was bad-*** and the "next gen rx7", better in every way yada yada yada, lol.
If its just to be "the next rotary powered car", then the RX9 it is.
If its intentions are to be a no-compromise sports car, then it should be the 4th gen Rx7..it just better not let us (and the rx7 name) down!! It had better put some serious hurt on the competition.
I just thank god they called the Rx8 the Rx8 and not the Rx7...imagine how horrible that would be...people with their "new (weak) rx7" thinking it was bad-*** and the "next gen rx7", better in every way yada yada yada, lol.
11-03-15, 10:50 PM
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I personally can't wait for the 25 year old rule. I can just imagine the flood of cheap parts available
If you look at the UK market for example, they casually import JDM FD's...usually these FD's come equipped with aftermarket parts, sometimes with parts that are considered rare or unicorn in the US market, or parts that would otherwise be to expensive to ship over on their own due to size. Example: You find a cheap FD in Japan that has a MS A-Spec bumper...those things are worth a fortune here. Oh the possibilities
Sorry...back on topic now
11-03-15, 11:20 PM
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The car will be called the Rx-7. I forget which article it was, but one of the Mazda execs. was asked about the Rx-9 name. He essentially said that the Rx-8 was named that because it had 4 doors and 4 seats. This car (and they WILL make it, probably sooner than later) he said, "will have 2 doors and 2 seats, so what name do you think makes sense"? Or something to that effect. As if to imply that they're continuing the legacy of the 2 door, 2 seat Rx.
To me, that means Rx-7.
To me, that means Rx-7.
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11-03-15, 11:44 PM
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The car will be called the Rx-7. I forget which article it was, but one of the Mazda execs. was asked about the Rx-9 name. He essentially said that the Rx-8 was named that because it had 4 doors and 4 seats. This car (and they WILL make it, probably sooner than later) he said, "will have 2 doors and 2 seats, so what name do you think makes sense"? Or something to that effect. As if to imply that they're continuing the legacy of the 2 door, 2 seat Rx.
To me, that means Rx-7.
To me, that means Rx-7.
if its true...
11-04-15, 01:40 AM
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*shivers* I don't think you'll have to worry about the FD corresponding in any way to the 4th gen camaro
A different perspective: you think the new NSX is going to effect the values of the original? doubtful.
The only way this new car will hurt FD values is if its better, and gets the same recognition among its competition as the FD did, which is doubtful, considering Mazda said it would be close to the Cayman. Not gtr, not vette, not nsx, etc.
If anything, assuming positive press and such on this new car, wouldn't it increase the demand/desire for the FD? It is a classic and the predecessor to this new car, and the FD is old enough for the nostalgic/collector draw.
Btw, I'd like to consider the FD as more of a 993 of RX Mazdas
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11-04-15, 05:59 AM
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If the car had debuted a hybrid electric / rotary setup or even ran on diesel then RX-9 would be fitting for progressions sake. Since the rumor is that it will most likely be a lightweight 2 rotor turbo then RX-7 should be the name. Still not sure why so many RX-7 owners bag on the RX-8 since it was not meant to be a replacement for the 7. It was more an evolution of the concept of the 4 seater and 4 door rotaries back in the 70's that were more practical. Just my .02 cents.
11-04-15, 06:11 AM
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11-04-15, 11:49 AM
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The car will be called the Rx-7. I forget which article it was, but one of the Mazda execs. was asked about the Rx-9 name. He essentially said that the Rx-8 was named that because it had 4 doors and 4 seats. This car (and they WILL make it, probably sooner than later) he said, "will have 2 doors and 2 seats, so what name do you think makes sense"? Or something to that effect. As if to imply that they're continuing the legacy of the 2 door, 2 seat Rx.
To me, that means Rx-7.
To me, that means Rx-7.
I read that article too, it was a not so subtle hint that it will be called Rx-7. Makes sense looking at the concept; 2 door, light weight, 2 rotor turbo, down to business interior, etc. The design cues scream Rx-7. Sorry OP, but I'd agree with Mazda on this one, this car should be the fourth gen 7.
11-04-15, 11:58 AM
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I think they should stick with RX7 as long as it fits the mold of what an RX7 is (and it seems to)... it's the "new rx7". Great.
I think there's a reason Porsche still calls the 911 the 911, or 911 Turbo, or 911 GT3 even though those cars have had other numerical designations like 930 or 984, 986, etc. internally or in Europe.
In the U.S., "911" is the brand.
I think there's a reason Porsche still calls the 911 the 911, or 911 Turbo, or 911 GT3 even though those cars have had other numerical designations like 930 or 984, 986, etc. internally or in Europe.
In the U.S., "911" is the brand.
11-04-15, 12:21 PM
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Lightbulb 2017 RX Name Petition
What does everyone think about making a petition to Mazda to name the new RX the RX9 instead of the new RX7. They've already moved to the RX8 . At this stage I believe our word could still have a little bit of say. Doing so would preserve the value and collectability of our RX7's . I for one would hate to see my FD end up as the 4th Gen Camaro did with the release of the 5th Gen.
Go away.
If you loved FDs you would be happy to see their prices drop so you could buy a 2nd or 3rd or 4th!
FDs are for working on, not collecting.
Did I just contradict myself?
11-04-15, 01:01 PM
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I would prefer Mazda to call it an RX-7...as long as the new car stands up to the rx-7 name and legacy, it would be a bold move and I would give them major respect. It would appear that they ARE really "listening" to their fans...
For some reason I just have a feeling they'll call it an RX-9...prove me wrong Mazda!
But regardless of the name I think I'll start saving up now so I can buy it when it comes out...oh wait...I can't save money as my FD is not finished yet...
For some reason I just have a feeling they'll call it an RX-9...prove me wrong Mazda!
But regardless of the name I think I'll start saving up now so I can buy it when it comes out...oh wait...I can't save money as my FD is not finished yet...
11-05-15, 10:55 PM
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The Rx-8 was a completely different class of car, and was not meant to be a replacement for the Rx-7. Mazda could have still released the Rx-8, had the Rx-7 not been "dis-continued", and sold them side by side. It's no different from the Porsche 911, 944, 928, etc. The 911 is the "lowest" in terms of the number, yet, it will always be the flagship. Think about it.
The Rx-Vision will become the next RX-7. Mazda has all but said this very thing.
11-05-15, 11:49 PM
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I can't understand why people think this way... The Rx-8 was a completely different class of car, and was not meant to be a replacement for the Rx-7. Mazda could have still released the Rx-8, had the Rx-7 not been "dis-continued", and sold them side by side. It's no different from the Porsche 911, 944, 928, etc. The 911 is the "lowest" in terms of the number, yet, it will always be the flagship. Think about it. The Rx-Vision will become the next RX-7. Mazda has all but said this very thing.