suprfast

i cant wait. i will be driving home my very own 93 RX7. this board has helped me get a good idea of what needs to be done to purchase one, then to keep it living. here is the scoop on the car.
93 rx7(not sure what type, not R1. has sunroof, no wing and bose stereo)
red with paint problem. wasnt fond of red at first, but its growing on me. uncle owns a shop, hmmmm, maybe rx7 yellow(later down the road)
brand new mazda factory motor with less than 2K miles on it.
brand new tranny as fifth gear grinded. its in the shop right now getting this resolved.
tan leather, wish it was black. within time!!!!
few minor dings and pings.
that is the quick run down on the car. while its in the shop a compression check will be ran on the turbos. just to insure that they are up to par. the car has 70K miles on it. i plan on doing all reliability mods once the car is in my possession. like i said i cant wait. the motor has a 22K mile warranty on it and the car itself has until september on the warranty. i just got approved for a 15K dollar loan, but i think guy wants 16K for it. does this seem like a good deal, im kinda stoked about it. even at 16K its a new drivetrain, minus the turbos. new tires. im 19 yrs old and have wanted one of these since i was 17. i waited cause i knew that i would get into trouble at that age, even knowing that two years more isnt much of a difference. full time student with a very decent part time job making about 800-1000/mth. insurance will be around 180/mth, payments at 300-360, and NO RENT. thanks mom and dad. all my money goes to the car, with some going to school. this will be a dream come true. i cant wait to actually be able to drive it as mine, not a test drive. that is the lowdown guys. i can go on forever but i wont. one more thing, HOW DO I PUT A TURBO TIMER ON THE CAR WITH AN ALARM????
kris

az_lynx

First things first.... congrats. I know whats it's like to want one for a while and finally have a chance to get your hands on one!

16k?... hard to say... if the motor is really THAT good than I would think it's not a bad deal. Some have paid way more for less and some have paid way less for more. *shrug*
Who build the motor?

As for the turbo timer question... thats a hard one. I'm in the process of figuring that one out right now w/ my installer. They can set it up where you can arm it but I don't think the engine kill will work after that
If you know the right guys it can be installed w/ autostart and can be setup to run the car for a set number of mins after you get out THEN arm the car. In that case you wouldn't need an autotimer at all BUT you would be restricted to that set min AND if you have a stick it's hard to find anyone to do that. Plus if you ever accidently start the car while in gear

Good luck!

BrianK

16K is a bit on the expensive side for a '93 VR, especially if the paint is fading... That being said, he's only ASKING 16K - so.. talk him down.

from the NADA:
MAZDA
1993
RX-7 - Rear Wheel Drive
Body Style: Coupe 2 Door Turbo
Model Number: FD331
Weight: 2,789
Average Trade-In: $10,925
(*)Average Retail: $12,900

Granted, there's lots of new mechanicals in it, so maybe it's worth it.

...And an alarm shop can put an alarm in your car with a turbo timer without too much difficulty. There's also a way you can arm the stock alarm while the timer is running... look on Rob Robinette's site.

suprfast

thanks guys. to answer the few questions here it is. the motor was not rebuilt. it was a brand new factory motor. it was under warranty and some regualr mazda guy was going to try and rebuild it. well when the guy took it apart he had no clue what he was getting into. he actually quit after dismantling the engine. they were forced to get a brand new factory motor. he was asking 16.5K and i still want to get him into the 15K range. i am trying my darndest to make this happen. money talks and when he sees this fatty check im sure he will change his mind. i think its a decent deal. i really want the car and also will use it as a daily driver. being that everything is brand new that will help me a lot. that should mean about 70K miles of fun. hopefully more since i will be doing a lot of reliability mods while the motor is still young. i dont think that these mods were available in 95 when the cars first came out. well, thanks for the input. i saw that blue book was right around 16K too. i think its decent. i know i can get a better price, but not sure about getting a better car for the price. input is still wanted, go ahead guys.
kris

FD3S LIGHTNING

Try to have someone look over the motor before you buy it. Mazda has a tendency to overlook A LOT of things. I'm not trying to discourage you but when I had my vacuum hoses changed to silicon, the mechanic noticed that there was a LARGE number of bolts and screws missing. 16K doesn't seem like too much of a price except for the paint isssue like BrianK said. Don't jump at the first FD you see. SHOP AROUND. Trust me on this one. Just don't buy anything but an FD

mr_jonboy

Congrats on the car. You are now forever pulled in by the RX-7 tractor beam.

As for the turbo timer with stock alarm question. Check this page. don't worry, it can be done. Don't know if the starter kill is disabled though, that is a good question.

Turbo Timer install

duckyjp

I would offer less. The most important things to look at when buying a car are the interior, exterior, engine, transmission etc. If all these are perfect then 16k is a good price. But if it has dings and bad paint, that alone should bring down the price a bunch. Check out the engine and who is doing the tranny. Check out the engine as well, who put it in, compression, idle, vacuum (oh yeah do the boost test and check vacuum while you're at it). 16k might be decent, but that is a lot of miles and with the exterior in poor shape...

rx7speed811

congratulations.
whatever you can get it down to, ~15g's is a good deal for a fd with a new engine in it. that would normally cost you around 5000, and if everything was done properly and will be maintained right (by you), the motor should last another 100000 miles at least. good luck.

suprfast

im gonna try and talk him down. as for the paint that is really not an issue price wise. i can get it repainted for less than 500.00. keep in mind this is quality stuff. it would be factory red dupont paint. my uncle owns a shop and all i will have to do is pay for supplies. no reason not to talk guy down though. i will and i am going to. i think that anything with a 15 in front of it sounds more appealing to me. he has maintained it nicely. the interior did not show any signs of peeling. the paint was the only downfall from what i see. im going to shoot for mid 15's when i talk to him
kris

suprfast

oh yes, what about an aftermarket alarm. im gonna get a top of the line viper alarm to put in. how do i do that with the turbo timer?
kris

mr_jonboy

I personally don't know that but I am sure one of the sites has info on an aftermarket alarm working with TT. It is probably some of the same wires that are spliced for the stock unit but I don't know for sure. Check them out first though, there is info on the net for anything you need.

boh

Congrats on your new purchase. It is easy to install an aftermarket alarm with a timer. The alarm will be set up to bypass the engine kill feature until the timer hits 0. I have a timer and the viper 550 on my car (with remote engine start). I think they add a relay to bypass this feature and when the car stops running the relay connects and your car is disabled. If you are willing to go to the L.A. area, I can hook you up with my installer. PM me if you are interested.

mr_jonboy

Now if doing the same install that Rob shows on his site, using the stock alarm. Does that still use the starter kill?

KZ1

the NADAis worthless, it all boils down to what you can sell it for, and what people are willing ot pay. try an dfind a good 7 for 12k, good luck. to geta nice one you have to pay at least 16k, if not 18k. Mind you thati sAtlanta market could differ.

Zoomspeed

As for the arlarm with a turbo timer, I suggest getting a clifford alarm. Some models already have a turbo timer function built in. I think clifford was and may still be one of the best. I've never been to found of DEI alarms, but then a litle while ago DEI bought out clifford so I don't know how the cliffords are now.

Toadman

Congrats on the purchase! PM me the VIN and I'll see what I can drum up in its history.

suprfast

thanks toadman, but i already got to run the vin. came out clean. i dont know exactly what to look for but there wasnt a sign of odometer roll back, accidents, or salvage. nothing fradulant. this guy is very HAPPY, if you know what i mean. HAPPY people tend to care for their cars more than NON happy people. im sure you get what happy means. no offense to any happy people out there though. as long as you own an FD i will not critisize. okay, no matter what i wont. about the turbo timer again. i dont konw which one to get. i am going with the viper(249.00) from circuit city. i will also just ask then to install the timer at the same time. i am more than capable of doing it but what the heck, ill let him.
kris

suprfast

quick question about the three mod rule. i want to get the apexi intake, apexi gt spec exhasut, and the pettit SS down pipe. will i be safe or would i have a chance of pushing the envelope. these will not be my FIRST mods but they will be in a few weeks. first mods are as follows, let me know what you think. im aiming for this order
1)turo timer/alarm
2)pettit AST
3)defi boost gauge/water temp gauge combo in autometer gauge pod
4)downpipe
5)apexi intake
6)gt spec exhaust
7)fluidyne radiator
8)pettit unlimited ecu
9)mid pipe
10)large intercooler from rx7 store
11)UR pulley set
will any of these products not work with each other. i heard that the apexi intake will hit the large M2 intercooler, but what about the one from the rx7 store. i also plan on routing the pipes to be further away from the engine, and have a heat shield. does all this sound good. my main thing is the three mod rule. tell me what you think.
kris

boh

Suprfast,

I think that you should get the radiator, intercooler and AST at the same time because they are all in the same general area. As for me, I did the intake and exhaust first w/o an ecu. Then I upgraded my turbo and downpipe with my ecu upgrade. Lastly, I upgraded my radiator, intercooler, battery and replaced the AST.

What mods are you planning on doing at the same time?

suprfast

well there is no way that i will be able to afford the AST, radiator, and the intercooler at the same time. how ever, i think i will be replacing the AST and the radiator at the same time. from there i will be doing gauges. first i will do the turbo timer and alarm. i just dont like the idea of hot oil coking to the turbos. sure there is a debate on all this, but i have my opinion. im still not sure about the intake, exhaust and downpipe at the same time. HOW SAFE IS THIS. my next mod would be the computer so i can get the intercooler. how does this sound. i have done research, but upsets me when i see mixed feelings. so i will have to go my route to figure things out. just dont want to blow the engine. although it is under warranty for 22K miles talk to you all later. thanks for the initial input. time for class.
kris