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Old 12-12-06, 04:41 PM
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Lightbulb 194 Wedge but what can I replace it with?

I'm looking to find something to replace the ugly oem bulbs in the '99 replica signals. I've been told to be careful about getting something that won't melt, so I was thinking maybe there were some LEDs (I've heard wide-angled mentioned) that might do the trick? Anybody have any suggestions on what or where to get such a thing from? Pics would be great too.
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why are they ugly? i have genuine 99 signals and they look fine.
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I got the 194 LED bulbs on ebay for about 5 bucks each. They have 4 LEDs on each bulb, and are pretty bright. I think they look good.
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I just have the cheap, ricey blue 194s from Autozone, they are nice and bright
everyone thinks they are HID headlights :P
but I have noticed they get hot and since I run them as daytime running lights (always ON with the ign), the connector is turning brown
I tried the 194 LED bulbs but none can compare to the brightness of the incandescent bulbs
I have some of the wide-angle LEDs in white - maybe I'll try them out...
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Originally Posted by neofreak
why are they ugly? i have genuine 99 signals and they look fine.
Because they put off a dull yellow color, which IMHO looks horrible. If they were truly yellow, they might've been okay, but as it is now, it just looks like a flashlight that doesn't have enough battery power.
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wow,
I just changed out the cheap bulbs for LEDs and I can't believe how much better the LEDs are!
The pic is very bad - my camera is terrible at night photos - but the LEDs make the incandecent bulbs look dull
The LEDs are so crisp and pure white
I thought the bulbs looked good, but now the lights are so much brighter
The LEDs are just the 'matrix' type with multiple (5) LEDs in each wedge
A definite improvement

BTW, the LED is on the left and incandecent on the right
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also, the LED replacements I tried before were just the single LED 194s
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I've taken all the incadencent bulbs out of my car. The only ones that remain are the ones in the dash and in the glovebox.
Otherwise everything has been moved over to LED's.
It's impossible to get LED replacements around here. So I went to www.autolumination.com
The FD takes 3 major numbers. 194's for everything small like the parking lights, side lights, and even the center brake light. 1157's are used for front signal lights and rear brake lights. 1156's for the rear turn signals and the reverse lights.

Make sure you get the 1 watt or even the 3 watt Luxeon type of LED's. Anything else will seem really dim by comparison. Speaking from experience here! I've ordered alot of LED's from that site. The 1 watts were really new when I made the change. The 3 watt Luxeon is what you really want. Especially if you want to replace your front turn signal lights due to the DRL (at least in Canada).

For now I haven't gotten around to changing the front turn signal lights or the reverse lights. They're still the only incadensent bulbs on the car. But I'll be changing them soon enough.

The LED's compliment the HID's at night very nicely!

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I actually put in the LED 1157s for the brake lights and it wasn't bright because of the angle. The stock bulbs were actually brighter, because of the way the bulbs are mounted. Stuck with stocker 1157s for the brakes.
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Originally Posted by 93FD3S
I actually put in the LED 1157s for the brake lights and it wasn't bright because of the angle. The stock bulbs were actually brighter, because of the way the bulbs are mounted. Stuck with stocker 1157s for the brakes.
I thought about that, so I didn't go with LEDs on those
but I have changed everything else to LEDs, including the entire interior and dash
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Originally Posted by Neo

For now I haven't gotten around to changing the front turn signal lights or the reverse lights. They're still the only incadensent bulbs on the car. But I'll be changing them soon enough.

try the halogen bulbs from autolumination for your backup lights - big improvement!
and you may not want the LEDs in your turnsignals because it makes them flash faster (too little resistance) and some people don't like it that way - but I do
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Bottlefed,

I'm trying to replace all the bulbs to LED's. The site has come out with new style 1157's. Includes the 3 watt Luxeon LED with the wide angle hiflux LED's around the sides.
I think I 'll end up trying this style out for my front turn signals.
I doubt I'll change any of the LED's in the rear. A PITA to change the first time around. Besides, using the "lighttower 2" on the rears are plenty bright. Both for brakes and turn signals.
I know about the fast turn signals. I knew that was going to happen. I don't mind the fast turning signals.
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This is exactly what I was looking for, thanks guys!

Edit- For the '99 signals, should I be getting the "side emit" or "forward emit"? I'm not really seeing anything that's "wide angled".

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http://autolumination.com/194.htm
I used the 5LED matrix bulbs
but the superstars work well too and seem to be brighter
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Bottlefed and I have gone through the same process of trial and error.
I use to have the 5led matrix bulbs. Those were the first and only ones available at the time. Problem I was noticing is the different shade of "white". The 5LED matrix was giving out too much blue and was making the housing look a bit "ricey". They didn't complement the HID's. Then they introduced the single high flux low profile LED. I upgraded my 5LED matrix to the high flux ones. Made a world of difference. Much brighter and much closer to the white the HID's give out.
Now they have the "4 star" high flux LED. The single one I have is pretty bright as it is. I can only imagine what the "4 star" will do!

When you have the chance, check out the 1157/1156 bulbs. I'm seriously considering giving the new 1157's a try. Having the 3wat Luxeon LED will make a huge difference.

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I will be changing my 99 lights to the 194aswell this winter
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All this talk about 194 replacements.. u guys inspired me to try this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...6745295&rd=1,1

I know it looks like cheaply TW/CN made - but, they're only 8 bucks, and 1 watt LEDs are pretty darn bright
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What would you guys suggest as reverse light LED's then?

Originally Posted by Neo
Bottlefed and I have gone through the same process of trial and error.
I use to have the 5led matrix bulbs. Those were the first and only ones available at the time. Problem I was noticing is the different shade of "white". The 5LED matrix was giving out too much blue and was making the housing look a bit "ricey". They didn't complement the HID's. Then they introduced the single high flux low profile LED. I upgraded my 5LED matrix to the high flux ones. Made a world of difference. Much brighter and much closer to the white the HID's give out.
Now they have the "4 star" high flux LED. The single one I have is pretty bright as it is. I can only imagine what the "4 star" will do!

When you have the chance, check out the 1157/1156 bulbs. I'm seriously considering giving the new 1157's a try. Having the 3wat Luxeon LED will make a huge difference.

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XxMerlinxX,

I would suggest the new Eagle eye tower for the reverse lights.
http://autolumination.com/1156_1157.htm
The reverse lights are 1156's.
These are the same ones I'm considering putting in the front turn signal lights.
I tried the light tower 2 in the housings. They were really tight to put in and they weren't bright enough. The amber is always a bit dimmer than the red in LED's.
Since these new 1156's come with the 3watt LED at the front and the high flux LED's on the sides, it should fill out the housing nicely.
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Originally Posted by kraked
All this talk about 194 replacements.. u guys inspired me to try this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...6745295&rd=1,1

I know it looks like cheaply TW/CN made - but, they're only 8 bucks, and 1 watt LEDs are pretty darn bright
those actually look exactly like the high flux 194s autolumination is selling now

I might have to get a set and compare
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Originally Posted by Neo
XxMerlinxX,

I would suggest the new Eagle eye tower for the reverse lights.
http://autolumination.com/1156_1157.htm
The reverse lights are 1156's.
These are the same ones I'm considering putting in the front turn signal lights.
I tried the light tower 2 in the housings. They were really tight to put in and they weren't bright enough. The amber is always a bit dimmer than the red in LED's.
Since these new 1156's come with the 3watt LED at the front and the high flux LED's on the sides, it should fill out the housing nicely.
I've got the "Beacon" 1156 xenon-halogen bulbs (on the same page you linked) and they are bright like headlights
they work great but get extremely hot like headlight bulbs and thus you have to becareful not to leave it in reverse with the ign. ON :P
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I might just leave those stock bulbs in there then, those Eagle Tower's are frickin' $25 a piece. I can't justify $50 for reverse lights.
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Originally Posted by BOTTLEFED
those actually look exactly like the high flux 194s autolumination is selling now

I might have to get a set and compare

I'll post some pics when I get them
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Originally Posted by Neo
Bottlefed and I have gone through the same process of trial and error.
I use to have the 5led matrix bulbs. Those were the first and only ones available at the time. Problem I was noticing is the different shade of "white". The 5LED matrix was giving out too much blue and was making the housing look a bit "ricey". They didn't complement the HID's. Then they introduced the single high flux low profile LED. I upgraded my 5LED matrix to the high flux ones. Made a world of difference. Much brighter and much closer to the white the HID's give out.
Now they have the "4 star" high flux LED. The single one I have is pretty bright as it is. I can only imagine what the "4 star" will do!

When you have the chance, check out the 1157/1156 bulbs. I'm seriously considering giving the new 1157's a try. Having the 3wat Luxeon LED will make a huge difference.

Lates,
just wanted to bump this thread

I ordered a pair of the 5 star high flux LEDs, T10 WedgeItem # 5-Star
Color: Super White, Lens: 194


I'll post up pics soon
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good thread thankx for bumping it
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