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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 01:46 PM
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13b W/ less than 100 miles still smokes.

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I'm very concerned about this... I had my motor rebuild/refurbished at a pineapple racing reputable shop. All seals, Springs and water rings changed and a large Street port was done. I am running the same single turbo setup before my motor blew 4 months back.. Using 10w40 conventional motor oil. My "rats nest" has been deleted along with the omp.
On cold and initial restarts starts it smokes pretty hard(enough to ALMOST cloud out my garage) it's pretty thick. When I stop at lights the smoke is still present and not so thick but very noticeable...
My new Spark plugs are black, and not that tan color. Car runs better than ever, no problems besides the smoke...
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 02:06 PM
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What color is the smoke? How much are you premixing? Sounds like you are def running rich. Do you have a wideband?
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 02:24 PM
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Anyone? Running about 1oz per gal..
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TpCpLaYa
What color is the smoke? How much are you premixing? Sounds like you are def running rich. Do you have a wideband?
It's definitely oil . It's whitish. It's possible to run rich because the smoke is very strong smelling to be oil.. It's not coolant, I know that smell lol.
Don't got an a/F Guage, I have a PFC Tho
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 02:31 PM
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Are you sure it isn't the turbos that are smoking?
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 02:31 PM
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White smoke is usually coolant not oil
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 02:38 PM
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Are you sure it isn't the turbos that are smoking?
Hmm.. possible on the exhaust side.. No oil residue inside my charge pipes. using the correct oil restrictor fitting for my turbo.. Anyway to check if turbo is bad on exhaust side?
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 96fd3s
White smoke is usually coolant not oil
It's not that coolant sMell?
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 03:20 PM
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Just saying the general rule is that white is usually coolant, and black is usually oil or fuel.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 03:22 PM
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probably typically new engine break in. its supposed to happen. if it keeps happening every single time, then you got yourself a problem.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 03:27 PM
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Black will be excessive fuel (way excessive) whitish blue will be oil, white/steam will be coolant.

If your plugs are black after 100 miles and Pineapple replaced your oil control rings it's probably fuel delivery related (FPR, PFC, tweaked injector). What you need to do is disable your air pump and put a wideband on the car to diagnose whether or not you've got excessive fuel.

There's also a small chance that the 'large' street port may be encroaching on the outter control ring but I doubt that unless Pineapple has made their port templates significantly larger in the last 3 years.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 03:36 PM
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its probably fuel , lets look at the variables ... new motor , with much bigger ports . BUT you have not tuned it ? or have they ? no AFR so you probably did not touch it . so I dont know if anyone touched the PFC , But usually a street port requires a bit more fuel so if someone richened the map up using PIM VOLT it may have richened everything up .
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 06:57 PM
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You need a few more than 100 miles, but once fully warmed up, let it idle for a bit then blip the throttle. Puff of smoke? Then it's pooling oil someplace... could be cracked/porous rotor, sliding by the oil control ring, or warped seals.
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 02:58 PM
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Broken apex seals on last engine? Wouldnt be surprised at all if it is the turbo smoking.
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