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#26
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Don't you really need to have the 99-spec bumper (genuine Mazda OEM, not an aftermarket plateless one) and reinforcement for the 99-spec air guide to work? It is drawing air from around the hood release area, the OEM 99-spec has an air channel behind the front licence plate to direct air to the hood latch area then to the intake. Without that, I don't see much air getting to the intake. I could be wrong and welcome a corrective comment - I have a 99-spec air guide and a plateless 99-spec bumper on my car, I have held off installing it as it seems like the air passage is pretty blocked off by the bumper reinforcement.
Also, trial fitting the air guide on my car, there was interference with the thickness of the upper IC fixing bolt - like the bushing was too thick - now, my car has a Biltz IC but I think the same issue will affect stock IC also.
All that said...Great thread!
#27
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Don't you really need to have the 99-spec bumper (genuine Mazda OEM, not an aftermarket plateless one) and reinforcement for the 99-spec air guide to work? It is drawing air from around the hood release area, the OEM 99-spec has an air channel behind the front licence plate to direct air to the hood latch area then to the intake. Without that, I don't see much air getting to the intake. I could be wrong and welcome a corrective comment - I have a 99-spec air guide and a plateless 99-spec bumper on my car, I have held off installing it as it seems like the air passage is pretty blocked off by the bumper reinforcement.
Also, trial fitting the air guide on my car, there was interference with the thickness of the upper IC fixing bolt - like the bushing was too thick - now, my car has a Biltz IC but I think the same issue will affect stock IC also.
All that said...Great thread!
Also, trial fitting the air guide on my car, there was interference with the thickness of the upper IC fixing bolt - like the bushing was too thick - now, my car has a Biltz IC but I think the same issue will affect stock IC also.
All that said...Great thread!
#28
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Was cracking up reading this thread, this is my car. I have RZ wheels instead of Spirit R and no S2000 antenna but great minds think alike I guess.
https://www.rx7club.com/build-thread...2-0-a-1110374/
https://www.rx7club.com/build-thread...2-0-a-1110374/
#29
Thanks for the pictures Im picky on parts that are in peoples face, so ill probably get a new one from mazda, if i dont get my hands on an AutoExe carbon intake instead Might "have" to get the 99-spec intercooler duct also then i guess
Bloody money swamp these cars <3
Or both i got some Feed style now, and i think i have to test the OEM 99-specs also.
Bloody money swamp these cars <3
Or both i got some Feed style now, and i think i have to test the OEM 99-specs also.
Intercooler duct should have been on the list. But I didn't even know it was different!
But I think there's enough I missed in the OEM department to keep this thread going a little longer.
One thing many people goof up are the round tail lights and the later Y-pipe - these parts were introduced in 96, not 99.
Don't forget the 99 side skirts. They are on the heavy side but they look good. And the rear mud guards with it.
Also, the larger front and rear brakes from the 99+ cars.
You can even go REALLY nuts and try and do the later 4-channel ABS.
Dale
Don't forget the 99 side skirts. They are on the heavy side but they look good. And the rear mud guards with it.
Also, the larger front and rear brakes from the 99+ cars.
You can even go REALLY nuts and try and do the later 4-channel ABS.
Dale
Can't believe I overlooked the YPipe... duh.
Side skirts with rear mud flaps are a good combo.
I think I mentioned the brakes. Although again, the 99Spec debate can be raised.
Question on the 4-Channel ABS. I believe this has been done by a couple people, but I've never actually heard much follow up to it. Is it "better"? Is it worth it? My understanding it that you actually need ABS parts from a 96-98 model. ABS underhood module, ABS CPU, and 4 wheel sensors. Of course, custom lines as well.
Good point on the rear lights and y-pipe . Also the OEM side skirts were also available on much earlier JDM FD's, not sure exactly when they came in, but they were in the '93 options catalog. The larger brakes were also available from early on on all RZ models, some special editions and S8 RS models (And obviously the later RZ and Spirit R ). Even the auto Spirit R and the S8 type R & RB models have the smaller brakes .
That last iteration of the FD ABS still had a single brake line to the rear, so not sure how much of an upgrade it is over the earlier systems. Does look cool, though .
Also to add to the list would be the later brake booster and power steering system. Feedback is much better imo .
The later clusters really help make the interior look less dated, too.
I need some of those washer jets!
That last iteration of the FD ABS still had a single brake line to the rear, so not sure how much of an upgrade it is over the earlier systems. Does look cool, though .
Also to add to the list would be the later brake booster and power steering system. Feedback is much better imo .
The later clusters really help make the interior look less dated, too.
I need some of those washer jets!
As for the ABS - do you know what year it went back to single rear line? This confirms my "mid-year" suspicion on the ABS upgrade.
I didn't realize the brake booster and PS system were different later on. Do you know specifically whats different? Would parts cross over to a USDM car?
GREAT point on the clusters. I've done this to every car I've owned - can't believe I overlooked it.
Don't you really need to have the 99-spec bumper (genuine Mazda OEM, not an aftermarket plateless one) and reinforcement for the 99-spec air guide to work? It is drawing air from around the hood release area, the OEM 99-spec has an air channel behind the front licence plate to direct air to the hood latch area then to the intake. Without that, I don't see much air getting to the intake. I could be wrong and welcome a corrective comment - I have a 99-spec air guide and a plateless 99-spec bumper on my car, I have held off installing it as it seems like the air passage is pretty blocked off by the bumper reinforcement.
Also, trial fitting the air guide on my car, there was interference with the thickness of the upper IC fixing bolt - like the bushing was too thick - now, my car has a Biltz IC but I think the same issue will affect stock IC also.
All that said...Great thread!
Also, trial fitting the air guide on my car, there was interference with the thickness of the upper IC fixing bolt - like the bushing was too thick - now, my car has a Biltz IC but I think the same issue will affect stock IC also.
All that said...Great thread!
But I think you bring up a good question... is the air guide for the radiator OR the intake? Or both?
Are you running the USDM bumper support or 99Spec?
#30
Was cracking up reading this thread, this is my car. I have RZ wheels instead of Spirit R and no S2000 antenna but great minds think alike I guess.
https://www.rx7club.com/build-thread...2-0-a-1110374/
https://www.rx7club.com/build-thread...2-0-a-1110374/
Awesome build!
#31
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Question on the 4-Channel ABS. I believe this has been done by a couple people, but I've never actually heard much follow up to it. Is it "better"? Is it worth it? My understanding it that you actually need ABS parts from a 96-98 model. ABS underhood module, ABS CPU, and 4 wheel sensors. Of course, custom lines as well.
Thanks for the clarification on the brakes. I knew they were oddly assigned, but didn't know the specifics.
As for the ABS - do you know what year it went back to single rear line? This confirms my "mid-year" suspicion on the ABS upgrade.
I didn't realize the brake booster and PS system were different later on. Do you know specifically whats different? Would parts cross over to a USDM car?
Thanks for the clarification on the brakes. I knew they were oddly assigned, but didn't know the specifics.
As for the ABS - do you know what year it went back to single rear line? This confirms my "mid-year" suspicion on the ABS upgrade.
I didn't realize the brake booster and PS system were different later on. Do you know specifically whats different? Would parts cross over to a USDM car?
The later brake booster is smaller, so less assisted, the power steering is also less assisted. The feedback is greatly improved I'd say. Both are strait swaps as I did it on my '93 car. However, you will need to modify the brake lines as the smaller booster will move the master cylinder back a bit.
#34
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I don't know if you can connect the air guide to the USDM bumper support. I do know that the 99Spec Air Guide connects to the 99Spec Bumper reinforcement. I shoulda snapped a pic when I was doing mine.
But I think you bring up a good question... is the air guide for the radiator OR the intake? Or both?
Are you running the USDM bumper support or 99Spec?
I have a USDM bumper support that has been modified to fit the aftermarket plateless 99-spec bumper. I think the air guide would work if there was a source of air to the hood release area, on my car the 99-spec air guide kind of covers the open area on either side of the hood release so if air was blowing in it would catch it. Maybe the UDSM bumper support could be further modified to open up a section below the hood release to force air in. I think the other problem with the I/C upper bolt bushing contacting the air guide could be solved with a thinner bushing.
I would be interested in knowing more about the 99-spec I/C duct, too!
#35
There is no FD ABS that runs separate lines to the rear brakes. I've been through all the revision manuals, so not sure where that came from originally .
The later brake booster is smaller, so less assisted, the power steering is also less assisted. The feedback is greatly improved I'd say. Both are strait swaps as I did it on my '93 car. However, you will need to modify the brake lines as the smaller booster will move the master cylinder back a bit.
The later brake booster is smaller, so less assisted, the power steering is also less assisted. The feedback is greatly improved I'd say. Both are strait swaps as I did it on my '93 car. However, you will need to modify the brake lines as the smaller booster will move the master cylinder back a bit.
I assume since everything is swapped there might be *some* differences? If not, awesome.
So no other updates necessary for you at least? Just plug n chug?
Last edited by MattGold; 02-27-17 at 09:36 AM.
#38
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Can reference the big 99-spec parts here for people who read:
HTML Code:
F138-50-031A Front Bumper Skin F138-50-070B Bumper Reinforcement F140-56-1B0A Under tray Splash guard F138-50-AH1 Undertray Air Skirt F138-51-9K1B Right front air skirt (lip) F138-51-9L1B Left front air skirt (lip) F138-43-63XB Right brake duct F138-43-64XB Left brake duct F138-50-A21 Air guide F138-51-731 Front winged M emblem F141-51-731A Rear winged M emblem F138-51-060B Right front combo light F138-51-070B Left front combo light F138-51-680B Right fog light F138-51-690B Left fog light F132-51-170 Right rear tail light F132-51-180 Left rear tail light F132-37-190A Winged M center caps (you need four)
#39
Can reference the big 99-spec parts here for people who read:
HTML Code:
F138-50-031A Front Bumper Skin F138-50-070B Bumper Reinforcement F140-56-1B0A Under tray Splash guard F138-50-AH1 Undertray Air Skirt F138-51-9K1B Right front air skirt (lip) F138-51-9L1B Left front air skirt (lip) F138-43-63XB Right brake duct F138-43-64XB Left brake duct F138-50-A21 Air guide F138-51-731 Front winged M emblem F141-51-731A Rear winged M emblem F138-51-060B Right front combo light F138-51-070B Left front combo light F138-51-680B Right fog light F138-51-690B Left fog light F132-51-170 Right rear tail light F132-51-180 Left rear tail light F132-37-190A Winged M center caps (you need four)
I forgot about the Undertray Air Skirt (F138-50-AH1) as well.
#41
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Not a OEM part, but a must have for any 99-spec front (not easily compatible with fogs):
RHDJapan : R-Magic Oil Cooler Air Guide Guide-San - RX-7 FD3S
RHDJapan : R-Magic Oil Cooler Air Guide Guide-San - RX-7 FD3S
#42
Not a OEM part, but a must have for any 99-spec front (not easily compatible with fogs):
RHDJapan : R-Magic Oil Cooler Air Guide Guide-San - RX-7 FD3S
RHDJapan : R-Magic Oil Cooler Air Guide Guide-San - RX-7 FD3S
-M
#43
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I had those R-Magic ducts on my last FD, fitted perfectly and I would like them on my current FD, but don't want to lose the factory fit fogs .
Regarding the brake booster. Good point, on a LHD car the vacuum hook up to the UIM will be on the wrong size, you could likely make it work, though? I believe the change was made in 95.
I'll try and find what exactly is changed in the PS system as I imagine it's only a single part that would need changing.
Regarding the brake booster. Good point, on a LHD car the vacuum hook up to the UIM will be on the wrong size, you could likely make it work, though? I believe the change was made in 95.
I'll try and find what exactly is changed in the PS system as I imagine it's only a single part that would need changing.
#44
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This thread reminds me of this thread ---> https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-gen-gene...fined-1074621/
#45
This thread reminds me of this thread ---> https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-gen-gene...fined-1074621/
#46
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A couple of other small updates for consideration:
Install a 17” 99-spec (or RX-8) spare wheel and tire to work with your 99-spec big brakes (or some aftermarket big brake kits like Racing Brake)
Bypass the clutch safety switch to reduce voltage drop and eliminate a potential no-start failure path (this is a USNA and Canada system AFAIK due to liability concerns, so eliminating this circuit makes it work like “99-spec cars”)
Install a 17” 99-spec (or RX-8) spare wheel and tire to work with your 99-spec big brakes (or some aftermarket big brake kits like Racing Brake)
Bypass the clutch safety switch to reduce voltage drop and eliminate a potential no-start failure path (this is a USNA and Canada system AFAIK due to liability concerns, so eliminating this circuit makes it work like “99-spec cars”)
#47
www.AusRotary.com
A couple of other small updates for consideration:
Install a 17” 99-spec (or RX-8) spare wheel and tire to work with your 99-spec big brakes (or some aftermarket big brake kits like Racing Brake)
Bypass the clutch safety switch to reduce voltage drop and eliminate a potential no-start failure path (this is a USNA and Canada system AFAIK due to liability concerns, so eliminating this circuit makes it work like “99-spec cars”)
Install a 17” 99-spec (or RX-8) spare wheel and tire to work with your 99-spec big brakes (or some aftermarket big brake kits like Racing Brake)
Bypass the clutch safety switch to reduce voltage drop and eliminate a potential no-start failure path (this is a USNA and Canada system AFAIK due to liability concerns, so eliminating this circuit makes it work like “99-spec cars”)
#48
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Posted in the singer thread. NOt exactly OEM but
LHD Passenger Grip Handle (FD3S RX-7) - SakeBomb Garage LLC
My handle is broken and rather than purchase a plastic pos, Ill upgrade
http://www.rotary13b1.com/p/1348/93-...s---Black.html
What about the outer door handle?
And how about the interior pull handle thingy. Plastic cracks
http://www.rotary13b1.com/p/1555/93-...L-HANDLES.html
I love OEM with improvements
LHD Passenger Grip Handle (FD3S RX-7) - SakeBomb Garage LLC
My handle is broken and rather than purchase a plastic pos, Ill upgrade
http://www.rotary13b1.com/p/1348/93-...s---Black.html
What about the outer door handle?
And how about the interior pull handle thingy. Plastic cracks
http://www.rotary13b1.com/p/1555/93-...L-HANDLES.html
I love OEM with improvements
Last edited by 7_rocket; 03-02-17 at 07:42 PM.
#49
Rotary Enthusiast
Edit: I also have my antenna out for some body work so im definitely getting the s2k antenna! great thread!
Last edited by Sideo; 03-02-17 at 08:51 PM.