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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 08:04 PM
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Your friend and mine tomn16 was accused of being a scammer?
A first time buyer requested a parts quote which I promptly submitted with my usual terms....Friends & family payment and All my parts may be returned if not satisfied...also suggested he check my iTrader rating in case he had concerns about buyer protection.
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"No thanks, sounds a little too scammy to me"

I guess there are a few folks who can't trust anyone.....our FORUM's iTrader rating is an excellent feature.
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 08:36 PM
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For what it's worth, I've bought parts from tomsn16 earlier this year. The parts shipped on time and arrived in good condition.

It's been years so I'm fuzzy on the details, but I know someone who sold a lot of parts on Paypal and he said business accounts sometimes get scammed by customers who receive the parts and then falsely claim there was damage or wrong parts received. It sounded like Paypal would usually side with the customer (not the business), and the business would basically be forced to refund even if the customer didn't send the same part back. There's no way to predict if someone is planning to try this scam on you, but if you're not hurting for customers I wouldn't worry about losing out one one person who prefers to be cautious.
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 09:23 PM
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Thanks for the reply scotty305
Be assured we are not worried about losing a sale.....the subject NO-TRUST member is on our "NO FLY LIST"= no parts for him.
Also, we have parted-out many FD's over the past 10 years with ZERO buyer , PayPal , or UPS delivery problems.
All our parts supply is done exclusively on this FORUM because 99.9% of the members are trustworthy and trusting and a pleasure to work with.
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 11:44 PM
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The crazy thing about this community evolution is the "new wave" brings with them new nonsense. The social media era of people are just different and don't understand what a forum is, how it works or how not "scammy" well established members are. I don't think they care to know either. This place is just a slower Facebook to them lol

your level of importance here surpasses that of the server this website is hosted on. If rx7club should dissolve, your contribution amd continued support would live on.
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 12:04 AM
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Probably the guy calling you scammy was a scammer hisself.

Further to Scotty's comment, I think the Friends and Family option eliminates the customer pulling a fast one on claiming?
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 08:49 AM
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FDAUTO....I also suspect that "scammy" did NOT BOTHER to check my iTrader rating....takes all of a few minutes to do.
Also, thanks for the kind words.

Redbul.....yea, "scammy" may be the scammer and F&F payments may well keep false claims at a minimum.....although a problem I have not encountered to date.
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 09:22 AM
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To be fair, friends and family PayPal is usually someone trying to scam. It’s usually an immediate disqualifier for me. That said, you are a trustworthy member and I would be comfortable buying from you using that method.

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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7
To be fair, friends and family PayPal is usually someone trying to scam. It’s usually an immediate disqualifier for me. That said, you are a trustworthy member and I would be comfortable buying from you using that method.
Good point and understandable
That's why we note our problem is not the fee but the 1099's PayPal issues for goods & services.
Also suggest our iTrader rating = buyer protection
https://www.rx7club.com/itrader.php?u=130576
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7
To be fair, friends and family PayPal is usually someone trying to scam. It’s usually an immediate disqualifier for me. That said, you are a trustworthy member and I would be comfortable buying from you using that method.
I hate to say it, but I'm in this camp as well. I'm happy to pay the fees, but accounts get hacked and without buyer protection of some sort, I'm not likely to make the purchase.

That said, I've bought parts off Tom before without any issues and came to a solution that worked for both of us. Thanks again for working with me.
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 01:19 PM
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I've sold stuff on another forum where I'm well known asking the buyer to use the F&F designation. But that relies on trust and honesty, which, nowadays is certainly not a given. So it's buyer beware, and unless you absolutely trust the seller, as said above, I wouldn't use it.
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 07:00 PM
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I always air on the side of caution. On a social media platform like instagram and Facebook, unless I know you personally, I would not use PayPal F&F. I have been burned on more than one occasion for various reasons. Lucky, PayPal was a layer to stop that on top of a CC. Having said that, I’ve done thousand of dollars of PayPal F&F with Mr. Jim and would not hesitate to do so again. Everything comes extremely well packed, and as described. The new member could’ve simply done some research prior to calling the transaction “scammy” , or had a conversation that they were not comfortable with that since it was their first transaction, yet they chose not to do so. Those are the individuals you likely don’t want to do business with anyways. They probably did you a favor. The forum has had its share of scammers over the years but Mr. Jim is far from them.


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Old Dec 18, 2024 | 05:17 AM
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I have personally met and bought items from Jim, he’s gone out of his way to help me when I really needed it. He’s as honest as the day is long.

He even contacted me weeks afterwards to see how my repairs were going.

Jim is definitely a credit to this community.

-Mark

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Old Dec 18, 2024 | 07:12 AM
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Arrow Great seller!

Originally Posted by olddog25
I have personally met and bought items from Jim, he’s gone out of his way to help me when I really needed it. He’s as honest as the day is long.

He even contacted me weeks afterwards to see how my repairs were going.

Jim is definitely a credit to this community.

-Mark
I'll echo this too... Jim has been an outstanding seller! Highly trusted in my book!!

Ships super-fast, great prices on parts and follows though after the sell.

Steve


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Old Dec 18, 2024 | 08:53 AM
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Many thanks for your input guys...DW , GW , OldDog and Estevan.
Looks like we all agree on "know who you are working with" before you buy and the Forum iTrader rating is a good info source.
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Old Dec 18, 2024 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FDAUTO
The crazy thing about this community evolution is the "new wave" brings with them new nonsense. The social media era of people are just different and don't understand what a forum is, how it works or how not "scammy" well established members are. I don't think they care to know either. This place is just a slower Facebook to them lol

your level of importance here surpasses that of the server this website is hosted on. If rx7club should dissolve, your contribution amd continued support would live on.
100% crazy how many owners are asking for advice and shopping on Facebook groups vs searching the irreplaceable knowledge found on the forum and from solid members here.

I constantly suggest to the younger owners to sign up here but they always reply with how easy facebook is compared to an ancient forum
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Old Dec 18, 2024 | 03:14 PM
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So that is where all he young guys have gone?

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...023-a-1160646/
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Old Dec 18, 2024 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7
To be fair, friends and family PayPal is usually someone trying to scam. It’s usually an immediate disqualifier for me. That said, you are a trustworthy member and I would be comfortable buying from you using that method.
Hey hey now, you've sent to me via PP F&F before

Believe it or not, I still sell parts (some of them pretty high dollar) via personal check sent snail mail. My wife is like..... "wait, this dude from across the country wants Fikse wheels so sent you this, and he's never even met you?"

One of the good things about being in the community for oh, like a quarter of a century
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Old Dec 18, 2024 | 07:56 PM
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Not as active as I used to be but I knew I had bought from Jim previously (And Rich ) but didn’t see my name on the itrader list for Jim for positive feedback. Did I miss the input or how that feedback works? Glad both you guys help us all out still, thanks guys!

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Old Dec 18, 2024 | 09:03 PM
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Jim stole my wife and the wife took the kids. -1 feedback.
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Old Dec 19, 2024 | 05:47 AM
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Jim, I feel the same frustration towards the 1099K but I've come to terms with it over the years because in a way, when I was parting FD's, I was running what could equate to a small business. I was buying inventory, reselling it for a profit, and using the financial gain to support my hobby and home projects. As I've been selling out my inventory I have increase prices enough to cover the tax implication of a sale or I offer folks the options to pay my full asking price for a goods and services payment or to pay a discounted price for a tax free payment method.

Newer folks to the community (mostly Facebook Marketplace) prefer to pay a higher G&S price while the oldheads take the discount. It hasn't been too hard to zero out profits as I'm building my car because everything I buy for my car is considered "inventory" which usually leaves me with a low tax implication.
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Old Dec 19, 2024 | 08:54 AM
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Many thanks...Brekyrself, Rebul, Goodfella, TimBenton, Creepin, Molotovman
Great info and very very interesting insight on what's going on these days
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Hey hey now, you've sent to me via PP F&F before

Believe it or not, I still sell parts (some of them pretty high dollar) via personal check sent snail mail. My wife is like..... "wait, this dude from across the country wants Fikse wheels so sent you this, and he's never even met you?"

One of the good things about being in the community for oh, like a quarter of a century
LOL, pretty sure that was me!
If you can trust Jim and Rich, who can you trust?
I never hesitate to do business with the well-known sellers here on this forum! This is a small community, and we need our trusted sellers now more than ever!
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Even though you stopped responding to my pms a while ago, you have never done me wrong in any of our dealings over a course of a good decade , if not more. Always fair and shipped everything immediately .
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Old Dec 29, 2024 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by R-R-Rx7
Even though you stopped responding to my pms a while ago, you have never done me wrong in any of our dealings over a course of a good decade , if not more. Always fair and shipped everything immediately .
If I have missed pm's from you it was for certain not intentional and an error on my part.
Don't hesitate to contact
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Old Dec 29, 2024 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tomsn16
If I have missed pm's from you it was for certain not intentional and an error on my part.
Don't hesitate to contact
Maybe your PM mailbox is full or the sender's PM mailbox was full? If so, I'm pretty sure the forum won't let you send/receive PMs if that's the case, and it might not even inform you of the problem.
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