kmac

Interesting info, thanks to everyone for going after it.

If my numbers are correct and assuming a linear straight line, we are loosing over 30 per month. I find that number alarming and really hate to see PPL gutting FDs and throwing to the scrap yard.

Are the younger guys totalling the FDs? One clue would be to look at the attrition rate by model year. Assuming that the '95s are the most expensive and the '93s the least we might assume that the younger drivers are buying up the '93 and would see the greatest amount of recent loss on that year. I'm too lazy tonight to crunch those numbers.

afterburn27

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Yup, PFS was one of the first. No denying that no matter how controversial Peter is.

FDNewbie

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Yea...controversial or not, the fact remains that in '92, Mazda Headquarters gave Peter one of the first 100 FD's (which were for racing and/or promo use only)... #22 to be exact (I've seen it...the blue and silver racecar. Amazing machine). And also, if I'm not mistaken, the driver Mazda used to get the 0-60, 1/4 mile, braking, slalom, and other figures touted in US magazines was none other than Peter himself, having already had an illustrious career racing rotaries prior to the advent of the FD.

KeloidJonesJr.

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WTG! Stickie material.

yuichiror

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Ok, what's the deal with Peter? I know Ray runs the place out of Md now. Where's Peter?

FDNewbie

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AFAIK, Peter sold the physical location he had at Manassas, and sold PFS to Ray. Peter's building some business at the corner of Centerville Rd and Manassas Drive (literally a mile from the old shop), and I *think* it's gonna be a car sales lot.

sevensix

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peter farrell supersales

sevensix

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if peter was driving the fd for the tests... magazine times had 0-60 mile times of something like 5.2 or 5.3s. 1/4 mile times were off of stock claims as well. the magazines probably ran their own tests(on production cars) and weren't able to get times as quick as peter / mazda's results.

MichaelB145

Not sure if any other state has a list of known FD's.....but here is Colorado's.....

Mike B Black/Grey (Ported 13B w/ GT35/40)
Mike B Red (Parts car)
Claus Titanium Grey (Pheriphal ported 13B with Giant turbo)
Cooper M. Blue (Steves old car, lowered No Pistons sticker)
Trenz Pearl White (Nates old car, then David's, then sold to Trenz,T78)
David M. Blue
Derek Grey (T78)
Doug Red (T67? SCCA)
Henry Black (maybe sold, 99 spec)
Kole Silver (T04S?)
Marc Red (Secret Giant Turbo! Bridge Port, Crazy Fuel and Spark)
Matt Black (The famous FD that Robbie Knievil jumped on to)
Ray M. Blue (9 sec racing sponsored)
Rich White (Clean!)
Sean Red (moved to Florida)
Steve M. Blue (sold to Cooper)
Mike Red (Mike w/ Supra and RX-7)
Brian M. Blue (Springs)
Chang Silver (For Sale?)
Chris Black (Springs)
Chris M. Blue (9 second Racing sponsored)
Chris Red (Springs)
Cody Red (Coopers old car....he wrecked his other FD)
Cody Silver (His other FD)
Dane Red (Ft. Collins)
Dave Red (sold for Evo?)
Eric M. Blue
Jason Black
Jason M. Blue
Jason Silver
Jason White (GT35R, FMIC, ect ....lives in Springs MPFCC on RX7club)
Jerome Silver (SR20 in Springs)
Jim Silver (auto...met at Bandimere w/ his son)
John White
John Yellow (chased down on hwy to let him know about club)
John Black
Jon Red
Jun Black (met at March 05 Rotary meet)
Larry Silver (don't know sons name, but met at CarToys....clean!)
Mark Red (Fastest FD in SCCA in Colorado)
Marty Red (Single turbo, aftermarket front bumper, nice rims)
Mike Black
Mike Red (SCCA?)
Sean Unknown (719 area code)
Sean Black (303 area code)
Tony Black
Thomas White (Owns Phantom Motorsports)
Zack Red (Has blue racing seats)

FDNewbie

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Wow Michael...how'd you get that list/put it together?

MichaelB145

I started collecting names and numbers about 4 years ago of anyone with a FD. Then I started the Mile High Rotary Club in Colorado. I am really surprised theres a 140 FD's in Colorado....I thought I found most of them already.

dhahlen

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Yeah arizona doesn't have that many, I know of like 5-6 people locally. I hardly see them on the road.

Monkman33

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Subtract one from Missourri, add it to WA state

rxspeed87

just imagine being that one guy in wy

MichaelB145

One of the 2nd gen guys in Wy tried to buy that FD....he was his next door neighbor. Unless that FD wasn't registered.

eo2am

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you can delete two from california and add one to kansas.

Rotofire

I wish there was a way to figure out how many CYM's there are left

HaHa, 1 in wyoming...alright...who is it?!

technomentor

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Add (1) more to Texas. My 93 BB R-1 is registered and driven regularly so it should already be in the OCt. numbers. However, I also have a 93 VR Basethat is not currently registered.

I also parted out a rolled 93 SSM Touring earlier this year. The body went to the crusher. RIP. It's ashes...I mean parts... are being spread all over the country.

cosmicbang

add 2 in Va, not registered.

File

Thats it, I'm going to pack up and move from WA to Wyoming!

coneklr

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I have one of the registered ones that isn't on the road. I think you have to register to change ownership or get insurance started???

the-k-man

glad i'm one of the cool people in AZ. add a 93 to the list as of Dec 05. Just finished 2 years of repairs. Then my clutch release fork, hood release cable, throttle cable, and clutch slave broke since then! When will it end!!

Herblenny

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I don't know why its so hard to believe these numbers..

Lets compare...

93 FD - 9,976 produced - 6,772 registered = 67.883% of the produced FDs are registered.
94 FD - 3,403 produced - 2,607 registered = 76.609% of the produced FDs are registered.
95 FD - 500 produced - 417 registered = 83.400% of the produced FDs are registered.

Total of 13,879 FDs produced and 9,796 are registered = 70.581% are still on the road.

I guess by this stat, if you buy either 94 or 95, your change of totalling the car is far less.
Just seem kind of weird to me... Also when you count all the track only cars (not registered) and FDs that are out of commission and just sitting around until it runs again (which I have one sitting for about 2 years). I'm guessing the number will increase another 2 to 4%... exceeding 10+K in numbers.

FDNewbie

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Makes perfect sense to me. '93s typically go for cheaper prices than 94s or 95s, which usually translates to mean those 93s fall in the hands of the younger crowd which doesn't have much to spend. They also happen to be the least experienced drivers of the bunch.

Herblenny

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I don't know Ramy..

It might be true.. but its not that much of a difference between cost of 93 and 94 or 94 and 95.

The point I was trying to make is, it seems like there is some sort of weird calculation done instead of actually number of cars registered..

I just can't see 2 years in difference and only because 95 are rare, accidents or failure rates are far less. Only way I could truely believe these numbers will be to see which VINs are registered and when it was registered.

I also know at least 4-5 cars in birmingham alabama that haven't been registered in at least 2 years. That's about 4% of total number of registered FDs in AL.. And I'm sure in whole state, there are at least 10 or so FD thats not registered... Its just hard to believe there are almost 10k out of 14k cars are still around... in almost 14 years later...