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Old 03-02-18, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by topheRx7
Was wondering if you all wouldnt mind helping me price my FD as the market seems to be somewhat scewed to say the least.


IMO a few things are hurting the car's value and mind you this is without pictures
Exhaust is generic oversized muffler that need to be updated due to rust threw around the welds on the muffler.
Interior also has some upgrades like full (real) carbon fiber dash, shift ****, AEM boost gauge and wideband (sensor still needs to be mounted to exhaust).
Obviously a no name muffler that needs to be updated will hurt the value. Also unless that carbon fiber interior is absolutely breath taking, I'd put back the stock pieces (if you have them). Last go get that wideband hooked up (or simply remove it). As you already know, a car that needs to be worked on (no matter how slight) kills the price. To get the most $$, you really want to sell a car that you can just hand over the keys and say happy motoring.

You are better off selling your uninstalled parts on here separately than just giving them away to the buyer.
rx7 store Vmount intercooler/radiator/ pipping,
turbo smart hypergate 45mm,
anodized purple pulley kit,
EMS stinger 2rotor cpu w harness,
Xcessive lower intake manifold,

So without seeing a single picture I'm thinking the car in it's present state would be somewhere in the vicinity of $15K. Fix the minor issues and it would go upwards of 18K (more on BaT, **** has been crazy lately). This is just my wild *** guess so take it as a grain of salt but I am curious on what others speculate.

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Has Petite provided a warranty on their engine work and, if so, would they allow you to transfer the warranty?
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Originally Posted by Redbul
How about some pictures of the exterior, interior and engine bay?










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Originally Posted by Redbul
Has Petite provided a warranty on their engine work and, if so, would they allow you to transfer the warranty?
yes they said 1year/10,000 mile but it would not be transferable that I am aware of.

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Originally Posted by Montego
IMO a few things are hurting the car's value and mind you this is without pictures


Obviously a no name muffler that needs to be updated will hurt the value. Also unless that carbon fiber interior is absolutely breath taking, I'd put back the stock pieces (if you have them). Last go get that wideband hooked up (or simply remove it). As you already know, a car that needs to be worked on (no matter how slight) kills the price. To get the most $$, you really want to sell a car that you can just hand over the keys and say happy motoring.

You are better off selling your uninstalled parts on here separately than just giving them away to the buyer.

So without seeing a single picture I'm thinking the car in it's present state would be somewhere in the vicinity of $15K. Fix the minor issues and it would go upwards of 18K (more on BaT, **** has been crazy lately). This is just my wild *** guess so take it as a grain of salt but I am curious on what others speculate.

i appreciate your input. I did forget to mention it’s missing a cover on the passenger side headlight and the trunk needs to be replaced or worked on by a body shop. It has some rust around the window seal that causes it to leak. I have since fixed the leak but and stopped the rust but cosmeticly it’s still an issue. As you can see in the photos it does also have a over sized throttle body as well as stainless steel brake lines. I have a brand new pair of ss lines as well. So many little things have been done over the years it’s hard to remember them all.
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Sorry for the poor quality photos it’s currently pollen city outside and the car is covered in it. I’ll get it out in the sun ASAP for some better quality shots as well as up close pics of the rough spots and carbon interior.
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Originally Posted by topheRx7
Sorry for the poor quality photos it’s currently pollen city outside and the car is covered in it. I’ll get it out in the sun ASAP for some better quality shots as well as up close pics of the rough spots and carbon interior.
FYI- Your car has the interior of a 93. Tan panels, tach, and no airbag on the passenger side. Are you sure it is a 94?
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93 climate controls. Hard to tell, but passenger airbag looks like 93 also.
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Photo of the engine bay has a "P" in the VIN indicating a 93
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Did USDM start at 200,000? So 201115 would make this is a very early USDM Car. Maybe made as early as January 1992.

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I have plotted the data of price vs mileage from the FD Price Database spreadsheet available on that thread.

Data selected dates from January 2016 to recent. There has been much less volatility in the low mileage cars, as apposed to the cars in the 80,000 mile range. Interesting that there is less volatility again in the cars over 100,000 miles, perhaps suggesting that price is dependent on the degree of modification or restoration.

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Here is the same data presented on a chronological basis starting from January 2016.

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93 speedometer and tach.
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Originally Posted by Montego
FYI- Your car has the interior of a 93. Tan panels, tach, and no airbag on the passenger side. Are you sure it is a 94?
Welp this is a little embarrassing but to be honest I never really checked the vin for the year, when I purchased the car about 7yrs ago the guy I bought it from had it listed as a 94 and I never checked it out. But if what you all say is correct than I would have to agree it must be a 93. Does that really impact the value though being that it’s just a 1 year difference. Was there anything special about the 94s other than what you have mentioned in regard to the airbag and door panels?
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Somewhere on here someone has posted a copy of a service bulletin that list dozens of minor and major points a dealer might need to address. The earlier a car, the more of those items may not have been known and addressed. It is useful to find that list and check over your car. Some folk have found they have gone many years (i.e. forever) with simple issues not having been remedied.

It may be that some of these issues might not have had an remedy period expiry date, and you could surprise your local dealer with a request to fix.
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Originally Posted by topheRx7


Welp this is a little embarrassing but to be honest I never really checked the vin for the year, when I purchased the car about 7yrs ago the guy I bought it from had it listed as a 94 and I never checked it out. But if what you all say is correct than I would have to agree it must be a 93. Does that really impact the value though being that it’s just a 1 year difference. Was there anything special about the 94s other than what you have mentioned in regard to the airbag and door panels?
It's most important that you represent the car correctly, honestly, and well. Subsequent to that, there are differences between 93/94+. The later cars tend to bring a premium for their improvements, depending on the buyers priorities.
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It's most important that you represent the car correctly, honestly, and well. Subsequent to that, there are differences between 93/94+. The later cars tend to bring a premium for their improvements, depending on the buyers priorities.
YEP

Major difference and IMO the 94/95 cars are worth an easy 3 to 5k more at this time and that spread will only continue to get wider.
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For what it's worth, I got an unsolicited offer of $40K for my FD over the weekend. Of course, it's not for sale as I've only had it a few weeks, but I believe the market for these cars (at least in Silicon Valley) is stronger than the sentiment in this thread indicates.
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If you know you can pick one up for $25-30k on this forum, or elsewhere, letting yours go for $40k seems like a smart opportunity...unless of course you have more than $15k invested in mods.
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For what it's worth, I got an unsolicited offer of $40K for my FD over the weekend. Of course, it's not for sale as I've only had it a few weeks, but I believe the market for these cars (at least in Silicon Valley) is stronger than the sentiment in this thread indicates.
If it has under 30k miles that makes sense to me.
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Originally Posted by 94 R2
For what it's worth, I got an unsolicited offer of $40K for my FD over the weekend. Of course, it's not for sale as I've only had it a few weeks, but I believe the market for these cars (at least in Silicon Valley) is stronger than the sentiment in this thread indicates.
You're right. But, for some reason this forum shorts it's own market hard...forever. Some kid in Los Gatos almost form-tackled my car one day (while I was driving) to talk to me about it.

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If you know you can pick one up for $25-30k on this forum, or elsewhere, letting yours go for $40k seems like a smart opportunity...unless of course you have more than $15k invested in mods.
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If it has under 30k miles that makes sense to me.
You guys are like goldfish! He's the fellow who bought the silver r2.
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You're right. But, for some reason this forum shorts it's own market hard...forever. Some kid in Los Gatos almost form-tackled my car one day (while I was driving) to talk to me about it.


You guys are like goldfish! He's the fellow who bought the silver r2.
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I'm 100 percent goldfish LOL

At this point it's abundantly clear that his 42.5k price tag was in line or why else would a random stranger come up to him and offer him 40k

I don't think this forum sells this car short at all. Gordon and I along with several others have been saying for years that the FD would become a valuable collector. The one thing I do and will always do is keep it real. There are 5 to 10 low mileage FDs currently listed for sale at over 30k and they've all been for sale for months and none have sold. I'm guessing the sellers all paid at most 30k and are hoping to make 10 or 15k plus because they understand they have the upper hand at this time. How long will this strong market last is anyone's guess? I suspect before prices go higher they'll go lower but that's just my instinct and I was dead wrong about the economy/stock market so I may be dead wrong about this market as well.

I should be listening to Gordon who said the prices will be 50k to 70k but I just have to go with my own gut which at this time is saying 40k is the top. I think we are currently living in one of the biggest economic bubbles of the last 50 years but it may have plenty of room to grow before bursting. Only time will tell. The good news is I own several FDs so if the market goes higher I'll let some go if it goes lower I'll keep them, or win, win

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Reading these posts makes me slightly nauseous considering I passed up a 94 R2 SSM with BNR’s and full supporting mods for I want to say $24k, with about 60k-70k miles, if memory serves correct — two years ago.

I might have done well to take that car but fell in love with my 93 Base BB which was in state. In the end I’m happy with my car and hindsight is 20/20 but man it’d be nice to have a highly desirable combination.

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Originally Posted by Brilliant7-LFC
Reading these posts makes me slightly nauseous considering I passed up a 94 R2 SSM with BNR’s and full supporting mods for I want to say $24k, with about 60k-70k miles, if memory serves correct — two years ago.

I might have done well to take that car but fell in love with my 93 Base BB which was in state. In the end I’m happy with my car and hindsight is 20/20 but man it’d be nice to have a highly desirable combination.

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That was my old car I had sold to a soldier in FL. He sold it for a CYM. Someone recently listed my old SSM R2 for $35k and he is a forum member but cant recall his name. The SSM R2s, CWs and CYMs seem to be the hot ticket these days.


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