Help changing spark plugs + wires please.
Re: Re: Help changing spark plugs + wires please.
Yea, this thread is very helpful to me too. But I had a few simple questions for clarification purposes...
1) You simply yank the wires off the ends of the spark plugs, right? Then just push 'em back on when you've replaced the plugs? Nothing else to it?
2) I'm only changing my spark plugs, and I'm going to run NGK 9's all around (BUR9EQ/P, right?) So it shouldn't matter which plug goes where, right?
3) Ok so the plugs are removed by unscrewing them by using a ratchet and correct bit size... but when I'm putting in the new plugs, how much should it go in? The "torque to factory specs" statement is kinda vague...
Thanks
Originally posted by technonovice
Step 4: Remove old plugs: No problem. Except of course there was so little room that my ratchet could barely move enough to turn the socket. I was a little steamed at this point and completely forgot that I own an electric
ratchet. Oh well, it probably would've died right then anyway.
Step 5: Install new plugs. Yippeeee! Fun! I coated each one with a touch of anti-sieze and torqued to factory specs. Careful not to confuse the trailing and leading plugs though. I love it when things go that smoothly, and I get
such a warm, contented feeling when I use that beautiful torque wrench! (Used the smaller lbs/inch one here.)
Step 4: Remove old plugs: No problem. Except of course there was so little room that my ratchet could barely move enough to turn the socket. I was a little steamed at this point and completely forgot that I own an electric
ratchet. Oh well, it probably would've died right then anyway.
Step 5: Install new plugs. Yippeeee! Fun! I coated each one with a touch of anti-sieze and torqued to factory specs. Careful not to confuse the trailing and leading plugs though. I love it when things go that smoothly, and I get
such a warm, contented feeling when I use that beautiful torque wrench! (Used the smaller lbs/inch one here.)
2) I'm only changing my spark plugs, and I'm going to run NGK 9's all around (BUR9EQ/P, right?) So it shouldn't matter which plug goes where, right?
3) Ok so the plugs are removed by unscrewing them by using a ratchet and correct bit size... but when I'm putting in the new plugs, how much should it go in? The "torque to factory specs" statement is kinda vague...
Thanks
Hand tight is fine for tightening them.
Correct, all 9s means you don't care what goes where, the thing you should do though, is change them 1 by 1, so there is no chance of putting the wrong wire on a plug.
Correct, all 9s means you don't care what goes where, the thing you should do though, is change them 1 by 1, so there is no chance of putting the wrong wire on a plug.
Thanks PVerdieck. Here goes nothing hehe.
I hope this works...cuz I'm praying fouled plugs are the reason why my car cranks but won't start...(have power to accessories, so it's not the main fuse, and I can hear the fuel pump come on).
I hope this works...cuz I'm praying fouled plugs are the reason why my car cranks but won't start...(have power to accessories, so it's not the main fuse, and I can hear the fuel pump come on).
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Anti sieze helps prevent it from getting stuck like the studs do, those are supposed to have it as well.
Tighten by hand then 1/4 or 1/2 wrench turn more depending on the type of plug. instructions
I bought some Denso's to try out and the next set will be the ferrari/motorcycle iridium plugs (8's & 10's).
Heat range guide
How to read used plugs to determin if you need to go hotter or colder here
Tighten by hand then 1/4 or 1/2 wrench turn more depending on the type of plug. instructions
I bought some Denso's to try out and the next set will be the ferrari/motorcycle iridium plugs (8's & 10's).
Heat range guide
How to read used plugs to determin if you need to go hotter or colder here
Last edited by GoRacer; Jun 22, 2004 at 07:54 PM.
Thanks for the links GoRacer. I got one last question tho hehe
I got the anti-seize, and some dielectric boot protector while I was at it (for between the plug & the wire).
Does it matter what you use to apply this stuff? Cuz it comes in little packets, and I was simply gonna use a Q-tip to apply it. Wasn't sure if the cotton getting on it was a bad idea though.
I got the anti-seize, and some dielectric boot protector while I was at it (for between the plug & the wire).
Does it matter what you use to apply this stuff? Cuz it comes in little packets, and I was simply gonna use a Q-tip to apply it. Wasn't sure if the cotton getting on it was a bad idea though.
The spark plugs should not be torqued down too much. I think the manual says 14 ft-lbs (from memory -- could be wrong) or something like that. Don't tighten them down too hard or you will strip the hole in the rotor housing.
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-Max
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Time to buy a torque wrench. Well according to the install guide 14mm is 15lbs but since that's for a piston engine i'd go with Max's 14lbs.
If they are flat seat plugs and no torque wrench then 1/2 wrench turn after hand tight according to the chart but since I don't have a torque wrench then maybe Max can correct if wrong.
I don't see why a q-tip would be bad seeing as thats what I used yesterday (lol).
If they are flat seat plugs and no torque wrench then 1/2 wrench turn after hand tight according to the chart but since I don't have a torque wrench then maybe Max can correct if wrong.
I don't see why a q-tip would be bad seeing as thats what I used yesterday (lol).
OK I think I'm missing something...
I took off the elbow, TB, left the oil filler neck since I'm only changing plugs (not the wires).
I pulled off the wire cap from the first plug, and all I see is a black plastic peice covering the entire plug. I definetly don't see anyplace to actually grab ahold of the plug via a bit and use a ratchet to unscrew it.
So if someone can tell me how I'd get access to the plug itself once the wire cap is off, that would be great, cuz all I can see is this black plastic round thing covering all of it...
Thanks
I took off the elbow, TB, left the oil filler neck since I'm only changing plugs (not the wires).
I pulled off the wire cap from the first plug, and all I see is a black plastic peice covering the entire plug. I definetly don't see anyplace to actually grab ahold of the plug via a bit and use a ratchet to unscrew it.
So if someone can tell me how I'd get access to the plug itself once the wire cap is off, that would be great, cuz all I can see is this black plastic round thing covering all of it...
Thanks
FDNewbie,
It would be nice to see a picture of what you are describing. Are your spark plug wires new or old?
Take a look at the picture below of Jason's car (with the anti-det plug):

You see the plug is exposed and you can see where to get your wrench on it.
It would be nice to see a picture of what you are describing. Are your spark plug wires new or old?
Take a look at the picture below of Jason's car (with the anti-det plug):

You see the plug is exposed and you can see where to get your wrench on it.
Mahjik, wow...you're in for a shocker. Newbie alert! lol.
I wasn't looking down far enough...I think what I saw was where the plug wires connect to the coils?
Anyways...good news is I found the plugs lol, and they're exposed like you said. Bad news is I don't have the proper size extension to grab a hold of it. Would you happen to know what size the extension bit is, so I can get one real quick?
OR, would you recommend one of those spark plug remover tools from the local auto part shop?
Thanks
I wasn't looking down far enough...I think what I saw was where the plug wires connect to the coils?
Anyways...good news is I found the plugs lol, and they're exposed like you said. Bad news is I don't have the proper size extension to grab a hold of it. Would you happen to know what size the extension bit is, so I can get one real quick?
OR, would you recommend one of those spark plug remover tools from the local auto part shop?
Thanks
Last edited by FDNewbie; Jun 23, 2004 at 11:10 AM.
Originally posted by FDNewbie
OR, would you recommend one of those spark plug remover tools from the local auto part shop?
OR, would you recommend one of those spark plug remover tools from the local auto part shop?
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You will want a stubby flexible wrench to, it helps.
Has anyone used the regular Denso plugs? I got them just cause they look like the race plugs but the same price as NGK-P's.
Has anyone used the regular Denso plugs? I got them just cause they look like the race plugs but the same price as NGK-P's.
Originally posted by GoRacer
You will want a stubby flexible wrench to, it helps.
You will want a stubby flexible wrench to, it helps.
Originally posted by FDNewbie
In doing what? I'll admit, getting to the two left plugs was a little tight, but it was still very doable. Just sux cuz you're all pressed up against the fender, and I HATE leaning against my car's panels
In doing what? I'll admit, getting to the two left plugs was a little tight, but it was still very doable. Just sux cuz you're all pressed up against the fender, and I HATE leaning against my car's panels
Originally posted by Mahjik
I find it easier to change them from underneath the car.
I find it easier to change them from underneath the car.
Originally posted by Rated R1
Mahjik,
This thread, or at least the link to the website with the pictorial write-up, should go to the advanced tech section for posterity.
Mahjik,
This thread, or at least the link to the website with the pictorial write-up, should go to the advanced tech section for posterity.
http://home.covad.net/~f2racer/plugs.../plugwires.htm
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Here is a pic of the Ferrai/motorcycle/snowmobile NGK and Denso's equivilent of the OEM NGK's. The NKG's are a 1/4" shorter, so even opening the gap should be safe. The porcelen is slightly more then 1/4" shorter as well.
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Originally posted by GoRacer
Tighten by hand then 1/4 or 1/2 wrench turn more depending on the type of plug. instructions
Tighten by hand then 1/4 or 1/2 wrench turn more depending on the type of plug. instructions
Oh, for wires I meant Moroso and not MSD. I decided to try the Magnacores on the 7 and they fit excellent. Snapped on extremely snug (boot and click). Strait boots for middle two coils just like the OEM ones.
Originally posted by GoRacer
I have virgin rotor housings and wrench tightened to 1/8 turn with small stubby wrench. Go with 1/16 to 1/8 turn of wrench handle (if you don't have a small torque wrench).
I have virgin rotor housings and wrench tightened to 1/8 turn with small stubby wrench. Go with 1/16 to 1/8 turn of wrench handle (if you don't have a small torque wrench).
Either way, I just turned the ratched until I felt it start to get tight. I hope that's not bad??
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