The results were much better than I would have thought. Running 12# boost, NGK 11 race plugs leading, with Power FC maps downloaded off the forum, but not tuned to my car specifically. Put down 321.4 peak rwhp and 256.0 peak rwt. The torque curve was nice and flat from 5k to 6.5k rpms, then slowly dropped to 8k rpms. I don't have it in front of me, so those are all the details I can remember offhand. This was on my 6th and final pull....my 4th pull gave a peak of ~328 rwhp but above 6k rpms the hp and torque curves were fluctuating badly. Turns out one of my Profec B's vacuum hoses was T-ed into the boost gauge line, which evidently isn't the best answer. T-ed it into the boost sensor (on the firewall near the steering wheel) and it smoothed everything out for the final run.

I have a friend with a scanner; I'll post as soon as I can.

Again, I'm ecstatic ! I was hoping for 300 given my mods (see my sig). I can only assume the Power FC helped, and that Dave Barninger at KD Rotary is the best damn engine builder in the country

 

Now if we can only get you an intercooler . . . . .

 

I remember you said that you were using someones maps on the forum.....Which map was it? Feel any difference after you plugged in the ##S???

Im currently running the base maps......on these upgrades...

 

damn! i'm glad for ya but worried about my own car. i saw the numbers and started looking for an IC in the mods. my car is darn near identical to yours -straight down to the KD streetport.
my clutch slipped and i pulled 270rwhp. dunno how much more it would of been with a good clutch. can you give some highlights from the map you're running?
definitley like to see the dyno and congrats! now break into the 12s!

 

Yup, I'd get an intercooler on there,,that's like you suckin cool air through a straw, with that street port and all..

 

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Fellow Listers,

I have decided to sell my PFS intake and intercooler, complete with
ducting, hoses, and clamps, having decided to upgrade to the M2 items (I
want the large IC for hard core track use). Both are in good
condition. Not cosmetically perfect, since they've been on the car for
approximately 4+ years, but perfectly functional. I want to sell both
together if at all possible.

Intercooler has 3 small rub spots on the sides (the red end tanks), where
it was sitting against the intake and the battery box. There was also
slight rubbing in the back from the Pettit AST. Intake K&N filters were
cleaned and re-oiled regularly. I will clean them and re-oil them again
before turning them over to a new owner.

This system (along with other mods) was adequate for 319 rwhp at 12-13 psi
and a 12.6 sec 1/4 mile. I hope to have pictures soon, but don't have a
digital camera. I've been on the list for a while, and there are still a
few old timers who hopefully can vouch for me if needed.

Pricing new for all items would be over $1800 (according to PFS website):
- IC: $1099
- Ducting: $150
- Hoses/clamps: $66
- Intake: $495

I will sell everything for $1000 obo. Please e-mail me at
mavila@alumni.princeton.edu if interested.

Thanks,
Mike

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I came across this post on the Big List, some guy is selling a whole intake/intercooler setup for about 1k, you might be able to just buy the IC from him seperately for cheap

 

Goodfellas, that is sweet I am going next week with my mods, and after get my midpipe on. the PFS add above this post looks sweet. I just installed a brand new PFS, it is the best comprimise in my opinion, plus one of the largest true stock mounts, and the red color is sweet. just my 2 cents. congrats again. I hope mine goes as well as yours, I am hoping for about the same results. maybe a bit more.

 

He is using the maps I posted on the Forum. He is getting an IC real soon . . so it was sort of a joke. He has a new motor with some really good turbos. I don't think everyone should expect those numbers. However that being said, it is nice to know those numbers are possible.

 

but i was hangin with him there....
i still think its that crazy flywheel and clutch combination....gotta get me some of that.....ya

im thinkin about going pfc....but i may just save up and go haltech (whooo):p

the pfc would just be a stepping stone kinda thing into the haltech and im not sure if its worth it to do that.
they both cost the same.....its the installation thats killer on the budget

so spyfish....hows YOUR car doing???
got IM?

 

"Turns out one of my Profec B's vacuum hoses was T-ed into the boost gauge line, which evidently isn't the best answer. T-ed it into the boost sensor (on the firewall near the steering wheel) and it smoothed everything out for the final run. "



Interesting...never heard about tapping into the boost sensor line. Anyone else do this? Benefits over the boost gauge line other than what Goodfella posted?

 

Hey goodfellas, nice numbers! My car is up at Dave's now getting tuned for the street-port. You definetely pulled some nice numbers with out an ic and the stock cat still in! Dave doesn't like to put midpipes on cars but with a high-flo cat and a decent ic you'll be pulling down 345-350 rwhp at 12 psi! Those are nice numbers. Try to find an M2 medium off partstrader so you don't have to move the battery. The PFS ic is nice but the M2 cools much better and has less pressure drop. Your flywheel I'm sure helps your FD rip too. I have to wait to get dynoed for a while until I break my engine in I'm impatient.

 

suganuma: My car is running like crap .... to put it nicely. Those "new" turbos aren't worth anything. From the dyno I am only getting 275 RWHP so Rich is killing me right now. I thought I was getting full boost at 4k, but it looks more like 4.5k. After talking with Steve and Chris on Saturday, I'm convinced that at least one of my turbos is going bad. Oh well, just one more excuse to go single. I'm looking at Apex, HKS, and XS kits. I think those are going to be my best options. Also my car is still has a funny idle. I think I have an intake leak . . . so I'll have to get new gaskets soon. Anyway, how is your car? Have a good trip to CO?

On the boost topic. I have video of Rich's car on the dyno. You can see it freak out when the boost controller was taken on the intake runner. Then you can see it smooth out when the boost was taken from the map location. I say put boost gauge, boost controller, map, & fuel pressure regulator all off the same area for best results. If you ever see a dyno run with a crazy oscillation in it (high rpms) suspect boost control problems. Oh yeah, the video clearly shows the need for nice hard pipes. The stock pipes balloon like you wouldn't believe!!

 

Some nice numbers Rich, I am taking mine to KDR for dyno tuning in early September. Any possibility of posting the video of the dyno run online?

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by spyfish007
He is using the maps I posted on the Forum. He is getting an IC real soon . . so it was sort of a joke. He has a new motor with some really good turbos. I don't think everyone should expect those numbers. However that being said, it is nice to know those numbers are possible. [/QUOTE

I would damn well hope those numbers are obtainable because half the board has them. Also, I think everyone should very well expect those numbers, this isn't rocket science folks, spend the cash and go fast.

 

Well, I've been told a healthy stock 3rd gen puts out ~220 rwhp. That means I've added ~100 rwhp with an intake, d/p, c/b 2# boost, a ported motor and an ECU with vague maps tuned for another car. That seems pretty damn good to me. I'd been told numerous times that my car would lay down maybe 280 rwhp at the most with my mods, and that I'd need to get rid of the stock IC and cat to gain some real power.

Sooo....I'm inclined to agree w/Spyfish. I definitely don't think my results are the norm.

--Rich

 

Yeah...i was wondering about that myself.
Are you talking about the hose that goes into the back of the profec control unit (not the IN/OUT soleniod box)?
I have mine t'd off the boost gauge (which is on the typical spot on the upper intake manifold).
So what exactly are the benefits?

 

I think they are the norm for you mods, they have to be. Furthermore, all what you said proves is that the gents that estiomated 280 were wrong.

I feel like an ***, Congrats, I was just pointing out that you did a good job on choosing your mods, and others who do they same shoudl expect similar power gains. If you don;t believe the last statement, then what makes your power? black magic?

 

Black magic indeed!! At least that is what I feel like sometimes. I think the turbos make a big deal. I wish everyone could dyno their car and just find out what the average is.