Proud Galant Driver

ok, my rx7 starts up fine if it hasnt been running for awhile. and i dont have to fight with it till i keep driving it. then it starts to sound like its flooding, i really think it is getting too much fuel into it and i cant get much over 60mph. and i can smell the gas too. do you think it is for sure a rebuild i need? do you think maybe i don't need a full kit because not all the seals went bad? what do you think?

thanks

BlackRx7

does it rev over 4K? almost sounds like you secondary injectors are malfunctioning...did this just flat out happen??? When in doubt do a compression test

Proud Galant Driver

i just went out to start it again. since its already been started it took a bit to get it going. but once it started it went up to like almost 3,000rpm. usually it idles around 1,500rpm i believe. i reved it up and got to 6,500rpm and then the warning buzzer came on so i let go. so yes, it does go over 4k.


it was like this when i bought it. they thought it was some type of seal but i dont know if they said apex or not. how do i do a compresion test?

j200pruf

iTrader: (4)

try revving it up while your driving it, doing it while at idle is no big deal, needs to be put under load.

Proud Galant Driver

how fast should i be going when i go to rev it?

1987RX7guy

iTrader: (3)

just see it you can redline it in fist gear. you will go about 30MPH in first at 7k rpm. If it does not go over 4k then your secondary injectors are not working.

Proud Galant Driver

and how much would secondary injectors cost me for an 86 N/A?

1987RX7guy

iTrader: (3)

`well they would not necesarily be dead. maybe just disconnected. I think new it would cost about 200 plus shipping

Proud Galant Driver

so injectors would make it flood and stuff? and i can smell gas and it seems like it get to much fuel.

1987RX7guy

iTrader: (3)

leaking injectors would do that. Did you try what we told you?

Proud Galant Driver

i will try in like 10 min i have been waiting to get a chance, im gonna have someone follow me in case it stalls and i cant get anywhere.

1987RX7guy

iTrader: (3)

you could buy some fuel injector cleaner or install a fuel cut-off switch to help with this problem. Unless you mena it floods while driving.

Proud Galant Driver

ok, now it wont start. it smells of gas the second you try to start it. how do u remove and clean the injectors?

BlackRx7

pull the egi fuse located in the engine bay fuse box, crank it about 5 times and put it back it and you should be fine...

Proud Galant Driver

ok, i pulled the egi inj fuse and crank it a bunch. then i put it back in and the engine started to catch but still no start. should i pull both the egi inj and egi comp fuse?


i have noticed when u pull the egi inj fuse in and out it helps the car start sometimes. it stilll smells of gas. could it be flooding?

BlackRx7

yeah it sounds like its flooding, when you start the car floor it this tells the ECU to cut off the fuel to the engine...

Proud Galant Driver

do i floor it with the egi inj and egi comp fuse out? which do i leave in and out when i floor it?


also, i kept cranking it without the inj fuse and everytime i put it back it gets a little closer. i think.


can i drain any of the extra fuel or anything so i can get a fresh start?

BlackRx7

when you put the fuse back in floor it....you may try puting some atf or MMO in the spark plug holes to absorb the gas...

Proud Galant Driver

so what does it take to clean the injectors? can they be removed and cleaned? i dont want to just get it started i want to solve the problem. do i have to relieve the fuel pressure before removing them?

tykelley27

OK I had a simular problem with my s4 TII and I found an easier way. From inside the car...

look under the driver side dash... Follow the steering column and there will be a yellow connector. Take it out and crank the car over... it'll start easily but will stall in like 3 seconds if you don't put it back in.

So I would unplug it so that the connectors are just not touching, crank the engine until it turned over and I would just click it back in...and you rx7 should be mobile again..

LOL... I made so many quick trips, so my car never really had time to warm up and it used to happen to me all the time. One of this wires in this cluster can be hooked up to a toggle switch to make it easier on you. I used double sided tape and just secured it under my dash (easily in reach)... But unfortunately I can't remeber which wire it was so just unplug the whole connetor peice.

I did this all the time..

Sorry it's so long... but I hope this makes things easier

Ty

Proud Galant Driver

is this connector the one that hooks to that metal box?

Proud Galant Driver

also i let it sit all night and it still won't start. instantly it smells of fuel. could it be that my injectors are stuck open somehow?

i couldn't figure out what plug it was and i tried all these tricks and no luck.

StarionX

Sounds like you have a friend with a car, so the easiest way to get it started would be to get a pull start. Tie some rope to the back of the other car, tie the other end to the front of yours (make sure you have at least 30 feet of rope as you want lots of room between the 2 cars in case he has to suddenly brake). Also make sure you tie the rope to something very secure (no plastic parts). Get in your car, put it in 2nd, then let the towing begin. I should also add that you have to have the key in the ignition and switched on (but don't crank it). He doesn't have to go fast (probably not more than 10-20mph). Eventually, you will see your revs rise and once it gets to about 4000rpm (give or take a few revs), your engine should start up. Once it does, put it into neutral straight away. Give it a few revs, just in case it wants to die because of all the extra fuel.

WARNING!!!!!!

DON'T, I repeat DON'T put the brakes on while you are being towed and there is NO slack in the rope, otherwise you might see the front of your car, or the rear of his car on the road. Think about it, I'm sure you'll understand why.
Once your engine is running and you're in neutral, you could flash your lights or something to tell the other driver to slow down and come to a stop. Then you can use your brakes to come to a stop (the more rope you use, the safer this part of the towing will be).
I would also recommend doing this on a straight bit of road if possible.

StarionX

I would also highly recommend installing a fuel cut switch.

Quote from another thread -

"There is a 6-point connector under the dash right by the steering colum. Cut the middle wire, it is black with a white stripe. Make sure you leave enough wire hanging out so you can splice another wire onto both ends. Get a switch with two prongs on the end. Connect a length of wire onto one prong and splice to one of the ends of the cut wire, do the same with the other prong and another peice of wire. That should do it for you. To use it just flip the switch and let it stall out on its own. Then to start it, start cranking the engine then flip the switch while still cranking the engine, she should start right up. I had a flooding problem on my car until i installed one, now it starts right up every time. If you need more info do a search and you will find a lot of stuff about fuel cut switches. "

sirkus

my car was doing the same thing when i got it... it smells horrible when you get around 3k while in 5th gear... and it bogs down. We took off my cats and straight piped it... and now it runs great. I think it may be clogged cats... does it idle really funny?