grinder

Hiya guys

i just picked up a S4 88 Turbo Cab .. these are pretty rare in the UK as most cabs are the S5 ones and got it for a bargain price aswell

been buying stuff for it whilst i can ( got the wind cheater thingy and the cover that fits over the roof when its down )

it wouldnt run right first - so put all the plug leads in their right places and she idles fine ( on choke ! )

i have a HUGE leak somewhere as it sounds like a tank under the bonnet ( hood !! ) - BUT thats not the issue at the mo

i did a basic compression test with a normal comp reader and the fronts are hitting 6's but its the back , its more of a 6-6-1

now this i assume is a stuck seal , i have searched this forum for about 1 hr now and cant find the ATF idiots guide

SO...

2 questions really

1 - can someone point me to it
2 - can someone give me step by step instructions on how to do it

thanks guys

Stu / Grinder

http://www.fc3s.co.uk ( there is some pics on there if you care to look )

powrdby13B

If you had an effed up seal you'd have two faces that didn't compress.
Are you sure that leak isn't coming from the turbo/downpipe/etc?

grinder

the leak could be anywhere to be honest - it at the turbo end though

its not the exhaust - already had that off and looked all round it

any ideas on the ATF trick ??

fcfdfan

Grinder:

FYI, I searched the Second Gen Archive for the "I Did the ATF Trick" Thread and this link was in the thread:

http://www.mazspeed.com/atf.htm

By the way, I went to your site and that is one awesome white Turbo Vert. What's the story on that spoiler -- don't think I've seen that one before -- sort like the Mazdatrix, but I didn't think that fit on the Vert. Also, those wheels ought to polish up very nicely. Good luck on the project!

slpin

iTrader: (9)

you know
if we tried going to UK sites, we type in

blah blah.co.uk


if you want to visit rx7club, do you type in www.rx7club.co.us or www.rx7club.com ?

grinder

fcfddan - thanks for that - i will have a nosey !

the car - bought it back in september - yeah it quite neat - just needs some TLC

the spoiler - i have NO idea what its off to be honest , the wheels are some Jap split rims , but need tyres all round

not bad for £200 ( thats prob about $350 ?? )

the coupe on the front page is mine aswell :0 ( that cost me £600 )

i have a think for cheap cars

slpin - had no idea that you could do .co.us - you learn something new everyday !

Thanks again chaps - you have been a great help

Stu / Grinder
Moderator over at www.mazdarotaryclub.com

trochoid

iTrader: (6)

You have a stuck side seal on the rear rotor, that's why only one combution face is down.

Interesting wheels on the vert.

grinder

so will the ATF work ??

if so - them im gonna be SOOOOOOOOOOOOO happy

and at £5/$9 its worth a shot anyways

if this doesnt do it - then im gonna attempt my first rebuild - this could be fun

fcfdfan

^

Have a nosey? Love that Limey Lingo.

To answer your question, if you read on it in the various threads, it's hard to say if The ATF Trick really works or not since there's no really detailed Before/After measurements. Aaron Cake seems to have a deeper insight than most -- he ought to chime in here sometime.

My $1500 FD has been soaking ATF for, God, two + years since I can't get to that project, but I will report results one of these decades. All I know from the og owner is that it runs rough and lost compression on a 31K mile factory reman motor and the og cats are still on the car at 160K .

The theory I'm testing is that the cats are clogged and the engine is carbonized with stuck seals not damaged/detonated seals. I turn the engine by hand every few weeks. The black **** that drips out is simply ungodly. Some day I will remove exhaust, bolt on a 3" raw downpipe, and trailer the beast out into a dead end cul de sac upwind from some open land in an industrial area nearby where no one will be offended by the ear-piercing decibel level and hideous smoke of an unchoked, carbonized rotary. (If I light that thing up in my upscale townhouse community, my neighbors would hate me forever ).

grinder

a $1500 - now thats cheap by anyones standards

Limey Lingo eh - never heard that one before

i asked about the ATF over on this side of the pond and no one really knows about it - like i said - worth a try , and if not - going to try and rebuild it

thanks for the link though - it made loads of sense - will try it over the next few days

i have readings before - so if it all works - i will test it again and see what a diff it makes ... if i can get another 1000 miles out of the car i would be happy ( and at the rate i drive them - thats a good 3 years )

i did an oil change on the coupe - it was due as it was a year since i last changed it - only did 700 miles in those 12 months though

the cost of fuel accross here is crazy - its now about £4.30 a gallon ( so thats probably about $7.50 in your money ) - so i try not to use the rx7 that much - more as a weekend toy

cheers buddy

Stu / Grinder

fcfdfan

I would think Higgi should be able to chime in.

But you may become the Euro ATF Trick Yoda if you can follow through and show some results. Keep all us Yanks up to date!

hIGGI

iTrader: (7)

grinder - ATF = automatic transmission fluid (just ask for oil for automatic transmissions or fluid for powersteering (usually same thing)

RETed

That rear spoiler is just a generic "Super Spoiler", as what most of us in the U.S. would call it.
It's just slapped on, and it's not model specific.

Most would call them...ugly.

The rims are pretty generic.
The wording on the caps sound JDM, but I don't recognize the design.


-Ted

grinder

no one seems to know what the rims are - and the spoiler - it makes it look different - and it came with the car

Got some ATF today - so i will have a play in the next few days - i will post results either way

Thanks for your help guys

Stu

Icemark

as far as the ATF trick, most long term RX-7 mechanic and users do not recommend the ATF trick. As many times as it fixes something, it also damages the engine.

If you really are dead stuick on trying something, do the water trick, as it will not harm seals, emissions, or the engine. It involves removing one of the vac lines into the throttle body and sucking up a half gal of water into the engine while running. This in basicly steam cleans the engine internals as well as the cats.

There are articles on this in the 2nd gen archive.

But I personally do not recommend in any way shape or form putting atf into the engine.

BklynRX7

thats what i came here to suggest, atleast see if that works before tryign somethign possibly damaging like the atf thing.