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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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Worth the price ?

hey everyone i have an RHD fc3s here that i am considering to buy, with the given list is it worth the 8500$ he is asking?

- 16 x 8.5 Gunmetal Watanabe rims with stretched Dunlop tires.
- Cusco Zero II fully adjustable coilovers.
- Cusco LSD
- Spearco Front mount intercooler.
- HKS Hi Power full 3 - 2.5in exhaust.
- *** HKS F-Con Piggy back ECU. (fuel controller)

*** i have heard bad things on the F-Con ECU because you have to take it
to a Master HKS dealer to configure it for you, what are you thoughts on this? ***

* would i really be able/need it to be configured?

- HKS Intake
- Cusco rear and front strut bars.
- Manual boost controller
- MOMO spider Carbon steering wheel
- MazdaSpeed Carbon shiftknob
- JVC MP3 Deck
- Noname adjustble bucket seat.
- Wangan drift spoiler
- Carbon fibre front spoiler
- OEM sideskirts
- JDM FD3s Front brake conversion
- Water, Oil and Boost gauges

some other mentionable s include
- 100, xxx on engine (since needs rebuild soon ill try and bring it down to 7g's, lower if possible)
- he performed regular oil maintenance
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by beefhole
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care to explain why beefhole?
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mr.managloo
care to explain why beefhole?
Nobody in their right mind would spend that much on a riced-out RX-7 that needs an engine rebuild.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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I would say no. There is really nothing special done to it to warrant the high price tag and on top of that you will need to throw in another few thousand for an approaching rebuild. For that price you can find a much better 7.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
Nobody in their right mind would spend that much on a riced-out RX-7 that needs an engine rebuild.
Do you think 6500 would be a reasonable offer?
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
Nobody in their right mind would spend that much on a riced-out RX-7 that needs an engine rebuild.
+1 no way with rebuild, sounds high without to me
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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id bring it down to 4 or 5 since its running, for now.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mr.managloo
Do you think 6500 would be a reasonable offer?
Yes, that is about right assuming the paint and interior is excellent, the front wheel bearings or hubs have been replaced, driveshaft has been replaced, pulsation damper has been replaced, bushings have been replaced, and the rest of the car is in good shape. However, since the engine has never been rebuilt, I am assuming that the previous owner has not replaced those items, although I could be wrong. Otherwise, plan on spending about $2-3K on those items, as well as about $2-3K for the engine rebuild and about $500 for a turbo rebuild.

Be sure to check out Aaron Cake's buying guide in the FAQ sticky.
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/frequently-asked-questions-2nd-generation-rx-7-faq-fc-494667/

Originally Posted by mr.managloo
*** i have heard bad things on the F-Con ECU because you have to take it to a Master HKS dealer to configure it for you, what are you thoughts on this? ***
That is not much of a problem as long as a Master HKS dealer is available in your location. This is the case with any brand of ECU. I do not recommend self-tuning unless the car owner is more concerned with the learning experience than they are with performance and reliability.

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* would i really be able/need it to be configured?
Yes, the engine will require retuning after the rebuild.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
Yes, that is about right assuming the paint and interior is excellent, the front wheel bearings or hubs have been replaced, driveshaft has been replaced, pulsation damper has been replaced, bushings have been replaced, and the rest of the car is in good shape. However, since the engine has never been rebuilt, I am assuming that the previous owner has not replaced those items, although I could be wrong. Otherwise, plan on spending about $2-3K on those items, as well as about $2-3K for the engine rebuild and about $500 for a turbo rebuild.

here are some pictures, the only thing he says is bad about the body is that there are some swirls.








I am planning to take it to a rotary mechanic if he accepts my 1st offer before making the purchase. The mechanic should be able to spot if the items you have mentioned above are in good order, right? Then from there with proof that the car isn't as pricey as he thinks i hope we can negotiate a reasonable price.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 10:23 AM
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nice fc..but no. thats entirely too much for used parts.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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No way I would pay more than 4k for a shell, dont care who owned it or what is done to it.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mr.managloo
Do you think 6500 would be a reasonable offer?

That's what I paid for my FD.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mr.managloo
I am planning to take it to a rotary mechanic if he accepts my 1st offer before making the purchase. The mechanic should be able to spot if the items you have mentioned above are in good order, right? Then from there with proof that the car isn't as pricey as he thinks i hope we can negotiate a reasonable price.
Yes, the mechanic should be able to spot a lot of the items I mentioned, but it would be nice if the seller has receipts. You may want to ask the mechanic if he is willing to estimate the value of the car. Although reasonable, I think $6,500 is a bit on the high side unless you just happen to like all of the modifications on the car.

Also, note that car is just a race car look-alike. You would need to re-route the intercooler plumbing prior to actually racing it. I find it funny that the front brakes were "upgraded" but the cooling ducts were blocked off, lol. Other than that, it is one of the more practical riced-out RX-7s that I have seen. Most of the modifications are actually pretty decent.

Originally Posted by fcdrifter13
No way I would pay more than 4k for a shell, dont care who owned it or what is done to it.
It is not a shell. The engine needs a rebuild soon. The inspecting mechanic will be able to evaluate the mechanical components since the car is driveable.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
Yes, the mechanic should be able to spot a lot of the items I mentioned, but it would be nice if the seller has receipts. You may want to ask the mechanic if he is willing to estimate the value of the car. Although reasonable, I think $6,500 is a bit on the high side unless you just happen to like all of the modifications on the car.

Also, note that car is just a race car look-alike. You would need to re-route the intercooler plumbing prior to actually racing it. I find it funny that the front brakes were "upgraded" but the cooling ducts were blocked off, lol. Other than that, it is one of the more practical riced-out RX-7s that I have seen. Most of the modifications are actually pretty decent.


It is not a shell. The engine needs a rebuild soon. The inspecting mechanic will be able to evaluate the mechanical components since the car is driveable.
To me though if it needs a rebuild it might as well be a shell. Who knows if the housings or rotors are any count. I was just saying that 8k for an FC that does not run or is a shell is way way to much, when you can buy a FC that has been greatly modified for around the same amount of money.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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I think you should buy it just because it has a wangan drift spoiler.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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I'd go no more than 4.5k. Maybe up to 5.5k if you really like the car. Its definitely not worth 8500.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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Dude, buy this one if you want a RHD FC, you won't find a better condition car to build, and its already got alot of nice mods:

(If I wasn't fixing my hosue and building my current TII this thing would be in my driveway)

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=784509

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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by classicauto
Dude, buy this one if you want a RHD FC, you won't find a better condition car to build, and its already got alot of nice mods:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=784509
+1. That's a beautiful FC.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by classicauto
(If I wasn't fixing my hosue and building my current TII this thing would be in my driveway)

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=784509
That is a much better deal than the car in this thread...

except black is the best color.

Originally Posted by fcdrifter13
To me though if it needs a rebuild it might as well be a shell.
A "Shell" = body, doors, usually includes glass, maybe with a few other parts, but no drivetrain, suspension or wheels, worth about $50. A "Roller" or "Rolling Shell" is the same but with suspension, wheels, brakes, and steering. A car that simply needs an engine rebuild would be considered "Fair" or "Poor" condition.

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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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No way in the world is that car worth $8500.

Really $5000 would be tops of what i would pay for any FC. Above that you are getting into FD price ranges (saw one localy go for $9000 just a few days ago, THAT was a good deal)

And like said above, look at all the things it wil need replaced shortly. And i know for a fact that is all right. I am having to do virtually all of those to my car now and it is not cheap or easy.
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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Well ya, good call guys, I took the car to Allan Autotech. the inspection took 10 min... by the time we came back from getting coffee the car was already waiting outside . The mechanic grilled the car, saying it was worth like 3gs. Ill list off a couple things he said

1. (because he had custom piping) poor backyard welding.
2. he bolted the engine to the car ...
3. giant holes in air filter
4. rust under the car
5. because it was imported from japan a 100,xxx engine is pretty much 240,xxx over here.
6. (this one hurt me ) their going to outlaw RHD ...


he didn't even charge me (+1 for Allan Autotech BC, Canada), so i am once again on the look for the FC for me .

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