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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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wing diffrence

I just bought a T2 wing and the seller told me after I hade bought it that it is a JDM s4 T2 wing and says that the wing is taller then the other usdm T2 wings he has. so my question, is there any differnce in the jdm wings and the usdm wings.
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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If the rear spoiler is stock, there is NO DIFFERENCE.

As a rule, question ANYTHING that states it's "JDM".


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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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Is it a wing or a spoiler?
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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It does NOT have flaps and slats, so it must be a spoiler.

Spoilers have Gurney wings.
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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Another "JDM" sucker...
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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no you got it wrong I dont care if it is or is not JDM. I just tought it was wierd that the japnese one whould be taller then the other ones. and it is the stock s4 T2 one I dont know if you could call it a wing or a spoiler
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by HAILERS
It does NOT have flaps and slats, so it must be a spoiler.
A wing does not necessarily require flaps and slats. Besides, the automotive market has its own warped definitions of wings and spoilers because many of the manufacturers do not know or care about the actual function of their products. I still find it strange that a retailer can sell a "wing" that is a non-functional oxymoron.

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Spoilers have Gurney wings.
The Gurney trailing edge device is a flap, and none of the stock RX-7 spoilers have this device.

The reason I asked the question of the original poster is because a "wing" type spoiler was offered as a dealer-installed or customer-installed aftermarket accessory on the U.S. models, and there may have been a larger Japanese version of this product.
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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I think that one is ulgy.
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RETed
If the rear spoiler is stock, there is NO DIFFERENCE.

As a rule, question ANYTHING that states it's "JDM".


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especially on RX7's. The RX is as JDM as it can be. It WAS built in Hiroshima after all. I have a different wing that has Mazda on the bottom but it's not JDM, just some S4 FG mazda wing, maybe you just bought that (best case scenario).


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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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no you got it wrong I dont care if it is or is not JDM.
I just noticed he told you it was JDM after you bought it, so I guess you're not a sucker after all. The same can't be said for the people who buy stuff labelled as "JDM" by shiester sellers when in fact is isn't.

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The RX is as JDM as it can be. It WAS built in Hiroshima after all.
It seems nobody even knows what JDM means these days. The term Japanese Domestic Market applied to cars means cars that were sold in Japan, i.e their "domestic market". It does not apply to cars made in Japan and sold elsewhere, and it doesn't apply to aftermarket parts either.
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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I once saw an ad on craigslist for a JDM Ford Escort......... no joke.
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by texFCturboII
I once saw an ad on craigslist for a JDM Ford Escort......... no joke.
Yes, those do exist. If it was sold in Japan, then its JDM.
Of course it was probably a sales gimmick.
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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wouldent the JDM version of the ford escort be the mazda protege?
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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I'm pretty sure escorts were sold in Japan as well.
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by black_88
wouldent the JDM version of the ford escort be the mazda protege?
No, there is no such thing as a "Protege" in Japan.
Those things were called Mazda 323's.

I'd be scared of an Escort in Japan; look for the "COSWORTH" badge...ph33r.


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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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wouldent the JDM version of the ford escort be the mazda protege?
Depends if it was a European Escort or a US Escort. The two are completely unrelated.
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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my brother had an escort the motor blew because of the bad lifter design. so then he went and bought a supercharged miata and now he has just switched it over to turbo (in japan they are called the eunos )
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by black_88
my brother had an escort the motor blew because of the bad lifter design. so then he went and bought a supercharged miata and now he has just switched it over to turbo (in japan they are called the eunos )
In Japan, they are called Eunos ROADSTERs.
"Eunos" is a chain of dealerships that had exclusive rights to sell the MX-5 (and FD3S).
This is why the FD3S is known as a Eunos FD3S.
You could not buy an MX-5 or FD3S brand new unless you went to a Eunos dealership.
Calling it just a "Eunos" doesn't make any sense; the model name is actually "Roadster".

Dude, that's like strike 2...


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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
I just noticed he told you it was JDM after you bought it, so I guess you're not a sucker after all. The same can't be said for the people who buy stuff labelled as "JDM" by shiester sellers when in fact is isn't.

It seems nobody even knows what JDM means these days. The term Japanese Domestic Market applied to cars means cars that were sold in Japan, i.e their "domestic market". It does not apply to cars made in Japan and sold elsewhere, and it doesn't apply to aftermarket parts either.
no no

jdm means 1337 hax

Stop confusing them :3
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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no it is not strike 2 because you are seeing how much I actually care about that market and how they label things. this is why this whole conversation started. as I stated above I dont care if the wing I bought is or is not A true JDM wing I could care less about where is was built as long as it looks good.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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no no

jdm means 1337 hax

Stop confusing them :3

I saved my 1000th post just to tell you that if you friggin type 1337 one more time, i'm going to punch you in the throat
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by black_88
and it is the stock s4 T2 one I dont know if you could call it a wing or a spoiler
A spoiler changes the car's overall airflow to reduce lift.

A wing creates downforce by itself which eventually translates to the rear wheels.

RX-7s use spoilers.

The S5 pyloned spoiler is more aggressive (sharper angle) than the S4. He probably had an S5 among S4s.
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