wideband with emanage
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wideband with emanage
alright...i've searched for hours and i've come to the conclusion....I'm a newb at tuning. I know this and that about tuning but i just don't KNOW about it. basically i'm going to be running an emanage with all available harnesses, greddy fmic w/ 2 additional injector bungs, and everything else in my sig. I just need a few questions answered
1. what wideband to get to use with it (and where to put the o2 sensor).
2. what all injectors to get (planning on 300-350 rwhp) including 2 additionals (and will emanage control these)
3. what type of a/f gauge to get (narrow- wide- gauge?)
4. will fd fuel pump work with said rwhp goals?
I know these are a lot of questions for someone about to undergo a project like this, but I just really want to know about all of this stuff and to learn. I don't know where all these other people learned it all, but it just seems like i'm almost on my own with learning it. I've been accepted to go to UTI-Houston in January so obviously i'm really motivated to learn. on another note, i've been looking at the LM-1 with the RPM calibrator thing from Innovative and with my simple tuning mind, I think that's the one i should go with. but i don't know anything so school me. thanks. and please don't bitch at me about searching because that's all i do. that's why i have such low post count.
1. what wideband to get to use with it (and where to put the o2 sensor).
2. what all injectors to get (planning on 300-350 rwhp) including 2 additionals (and will emanage control these)
3. what type of a/f gauge to get (narrow- wide- gauge?)
4. will fd fuel pump work with said rwhp goals?
I know these are a lot of questions for someone about to undergo a project like this, but I just really want to know about all of this stuff and to learn. I don't know where all these other people learned it all, but it just seems like i'm almost on my own with learning it. I've been accepted to go to UTI-Houston in January so obviously i'm really motivated to learn. on another note, i've been looking at the LM-1 with the RPM calibrator thing from Innovative and with my simple tuning mind, I think that's the one i should go with. but i don't know anything so school me. thanks. and please don't bitch at me about searching because that's all i do. that's why i have such low post count.
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From what im reading, it only supports the number of injectors that your ECU has. I could be wrong on that, so we'll wait for others to reply.
Personally I don't think theres any other reason to use a full blown emanage package unless you want to keep emissions controlls, the price is up there with standalones.
Personally I don't think theres any other reason to use a full blown emanage package unless you want to keep emissions controlls, the price is up there with standalones.
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Why aren't you people talking to GReddy about this?
Isn't it their product?
Should've they support their product if you got questions?
eManage users are very few and far between on here.
-Ted
Isn't it their product?
Should've they support their product if you got questions?
eManage users are very few and far between on here.
-Ted
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no, i don't have emissions. I have the unit, the ign. harness, inj. harness, and boost sensor i believe.
well, my main questions have to do with widebands and greddy can't tell me about that.
and what about my other questions. no disrespect, but i can use info.... I can't use criticism.
thanks.
well, my main questions have to do with widebands and greddy can't tell me about that.
and what about my other questions. no disrespect, but i can use info.... I can't use criticism.
thanks.
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what i was really wondering about what a/f gauge to get is whether i should get a narrowband gauge that could maybe tell me if something's really going wrong with my car while i'm driving and also have a wideband (w/out gauge) with controller for tuning.
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i have a very similar setup to you
check my sig
Go for the Ultimate e-manage. if you can..
since you can set a target AFR map for basic tuning.
which you would use an output from an LM1.
I have the LM1 with the RPm thing and it is so cool for data logging..
get a harness kit so you can splice easier into the harness. for the e-manage.
http://www.rx7.com/store/rx7/fcecu.html (@the botom of page)
also the e-manage does not do boost control. so get a plan into action for that.
E-manage does control sub-injectors. it can control up to 2 by default.
I have stock 550cc injectors inplace and run 14psi and it seems to be fine according to the LM1 output.
the sensor location is tricky..
You have 3 options
1. replace the sotck O2 and use the 2nd output of LM1 to input into the ECU as programmed as a stock O2 output.
2. installed close to stock O2 sensor but will be a tight fit since firewall may be in the way. if you place it directy behind it.
3.PLce it further down the pipe.
I used the sensor heat bung that LM1 sells since rotarties run hotter.
I recommend reading the installation manuals before buy any product related to your car.
you can downloaded the software for any product mentioned.
That is your best place to learn.
Read them through 1st and then again and on the 2nd time you will start to see how you can jion thing together.
I have a walbro Fuel pump and it seems to keep me rich.on stock injectors.
Just check you voltage.for the pump.
the e-manage blue does allround injector upgrades. ie pri and sndry.
Ultimate does pri and/or sndry upgrades.
Personally i am going to go the the ultimate soon..
and going to upgrade injectors to 850cc allround.
If you add sub injectors you should not need to upgrade your stock injectors.
check my sig
Go for the Ultimate e-manage. if you can..
since you can set a target AFR map for basic tuning.
which you would use an output from an LM1.
I have the LM1 with the RPm thing and it is so cool for data logging..
get a harness kit so you can splice easier into the harness. for the e-manage.
http://www.rx7.com/store/rx7/fcecu.html (@the botom of page)
also the e-manage does not do boost control. so get a plan into action for that.
E-manage does control sub-injectors. it can control up to 2 by default.
I have stock 550cc injectors inplace and run 14psi and it seems to be fine according to the LM1 output.
the sensor location is tricky..
You have 3 options
1. replace the sotck O2 and use the 2nd output of LM1 to input into the ECU as programmed as a stock O2 output.
2. installed close to stock O2 sensor but will be a tight fit since firewall may be in the way. if you place it directy behind it.
3.PLce it further down the pipe.
I used the sensor heat bung that LM1 sells since rotarties run hotter.
I recommend reading the installation manuals before buy any product related to your car.
you can downloaded the software for any product mentioned.
That is your best place to learn.
Read them through 1st and then again and on the 2nd time you will start to see how you can jion thing together.
I have a walbro Fuel pump and it seems to keep me rich.on stock injectors.
Just check you voltage.for the pump.
the e-manage blue does allround injector upgrades. ie pri and sndry.
Ultimate does pri and/or sndry upgrades.
Personally i am going to go the the ultimate soon..
and going to upgrade injectors to 850cc allround.
If you add sub injectors you should not need to upgrade your stock injectors.
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Originally Posted by BlaCkPlaGUE
the price is up there with standalones.
emanage ultimate is about 500(correct me if im wrong)?
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Originally Posted by maffut
price of emanage is up wtih which stand alones? nearly all standalones are atlaest 1k+ microtech, haltech,powerfc . emanage is about 350?
emanage ultimate is about 500(correct me if im wrong)?
emanage ultimate is about 500(correct me if im wrong)?
I am going almost the same route. I will not add extra injectors though.
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1. any 5v wideband with controller
2. 720cc will do, but any thing higher will be better in the long run
3. all a/f gauges are the same, it the o2 sensor that matters
4. fd will do, so will a walbro
go with the ultimate e-manage. if your going with the blue, you need to use the gold up-date.
http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/showth...highlight=gold
you need to do this update, so you can use the wideband the right way
2. 720cc will do, but any thing higher will be better in the long run
3. all a/f gauges are the same, it the o2 sensor that matters
4. fd will do, so will a walbro
go with the ultimate e-manage. if your going with the blue, you need to use the gold up-date.
http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/showth...highlight=gold
you need to do this update, so you can use the wideband the right way
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im currently working on my blue emanage....last time i checked i need to short a few jumpers inside the unit to get the software to update properly....does this rid of that problem?
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Mr. Vaughn:
so you can keep all the stock injectors in place if you get 2 subs?
how do you run the lines and wiring for them?
do you have the rpm thing or the aux box or both...I don't really understand what the aux box does
I got the Emanage harness for my blue emanage and a profec b spec II boost controller
I'm also putting the wideband o2 bung at the end of my downpipe right before the y-pipe
I don't understand what you mean by the blue emanage handling pri and sec injectors while the gold handles pri and/or sec. does that mean that you have to upgrade all around if you get the blue? and you can just upgrade the secondaries if you get the gold?
so you can keep all the stock injectors in place if you get 2 subs?
how do you run the lines and wiring for them?
do you have the rpm thing or the aux box or both...I don't really understand what the aux box does
I got the Emanage harness for my blue emanage and a profec b spec II boost controller
I'm also putting the wideband o2 bung at the end of my downpipe right before the y-pipe
I don't understand what you mean by the blue emanage handling pri and sec injectors while the gold handles pri and/or sec. does that mean that you have to upgrade all around if you get the blue? and you can just upgrade the secondaries if you get the gold?
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Originally Posted by torean
im currently working on my blue emanage....last time i checked i need to short a few jumpers inside the unit to get the software to update properly....does this rid of that problem?
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Originally Posted by RENESIS TII
you shouldn't have to do anything else, to get the udate to work
i remember seeing somewhere that theres a few jumper difference between the blue and gold...once those jumpers are shorted....the update says 1.42 "k" instead of 1.42
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so if i get the LM-1 Kit with the rpm converter and an xd-1 i'll be set, right? i need to know what exactly to get. i want to get the xd-1. i also want to know how i can just use the xd-1 without keeping the wb02 in the bung.
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