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Old 12-18-05, 05:45 PM
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And this is why you use Anti Freeze!!!!

I did a rebuild 4 months ago + -. Got a call today, the temps have been in the 20's at night. Owner never put antifreeze in the block and now ever freeze plug blew.


PLEASE use antifreeze!!!
Old 12-18-05, 05:50 PM
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Its not "Anti-freeze" its Engine Coolant. And use the proper mix and ratio
Old 12-18-05, 05:54 PM
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antifreeze= ethylene glycol or whatever the 5 year stuffs terminology is

coolant=distilled water


and ouch that sucks ***, i can picture in my head the plugs in the front cover laying in the pan...
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that sucks big time
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dear god here we go with the technical definitions babble again. banzai and karack you knew what he meant, sheesh.
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booo i want to see some pictures lol...
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I will post them when I get the car in my shop.
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http://fc3spro.com/TECH/HOF/nofreeze.jpg

Courtesy of hIGGI...


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dang do u think the motor is still good at all, if u put more plugs in??, i thought hte plugs were designed to pop before the ice expands enough to damage the motor.. prolly doesnt work though....
Old 12-19-05, 01:46 PM
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disappointing

Dand, I wanted to see ice breaking out of the waterpump and sides of motor, that would've have been a great "use antifreeze picture"

housings cracked with ice coming out (I may end up photoshopping it I want to see it so badly)
Old 12-19-05, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kompressorlogic
dang do u think the motor is still good at all, if u put more plugs in??, i thought hte plugs were designed to pop before the ice expands enough to damage the motor.. prolly doesnt work though....
if the freeze plugs perform like they are supposed to (and they usually do)..the motor should still be usuable...(as long as you replace the popped out freeze plugs and de-thaw the motor)...and yes, thats exactly what freeze plugs are for......
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Ouch, sucks to be that owner

One of our 20b guys here in MN destroyed his motor because he didn't drain the block after using water for leak down testing.

Hestored it for the winter and found a horrifying site in the summer.



Poor guy.
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I didn't hear about that. Is that the 20b that was smoking heavily?
Old 12-19-05, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jacobcartmill
dear god here we go with the technical definitions babble again. banzai and karack you knew what he meant, sheesh.
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freeze plugs out are not that bad damage, this is a lot worse :

http://rx7cz.net/photos/workshop35/IMG_2062.JPG

http://rx7cz.net/photos/workshop35/IMG_2069.JPG
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Originally Posted by GodSquadMandrake
I didn't hear about that. Is that the 20b that was smoking heavily?
Yeah, one of the center plates exploded. This was last winter before he got it running though.

I can't wait to see that thing running properly next season. He's done some supurb work on it.
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Florida Ftw!!!
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Originally Posted by zeromage428
Florida Ftw!!!
At least those of us in temperate climates don't have to worry too much about our cooling systems during normal summer driving. :P
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Originally Posted by hIGGI
freeze plugs out are not that bad damage, this is a lot worse :

http://rx7cz.net/photos/workshop35/IMG_2062.JPG

http://rx7cz.net/photos/workshop35/IMG_2069.JPG
Damn that sucks.... Just a hint for future reference, on the manual of the camera, it should say the min distance between the camera and the object that the camera can focus...
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so..try nto to make fun of me...
I was reading this thread and was liek who crap the guy who build my car had onyl water in there so i promptly had a heart attack....went outside and dug my seven out of the snow....and yup its frozen...so i started it and drained the water out after it melted and replaced with coolant...it seems to run fine...cant see any leaking...and i skrewed or lucky?
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Damn that sucks.... Just a hint for future reference, on the manual of the camera, it should say the min distance between the camera and the object that the camera can focus...
Tell that to RETed
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:P You need a new camera!

Damn, didn't know you were in NZ.
Should've stopped by in Hawaii! :P


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not just a camera, also need to use "macro" setting for close-ups.
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lol ya sry mark ive learned my lesson of never letting anyone else drive my car no matter who they say they are. and yes ppl the car we're all talking about is mine and it would of had a full coolant flush and antifreeze added befor the tempetures started droping below freezeing but some one drove the crap out of my car and made it so it wouldnt run, so ther was no way i could get the anti freeze into the block. and go figure i found out what was causeing my car not to run the same day the spyder and i wher takeing a look over things and heard fluid pooring out the back of the motor...
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Originally Posted by uRizen
Ouch, sucks to be that owner

One of our 20b guys here in MN destroyed his motor because he didn't drain the block after using water for leak down testing.

Hestored it for the winter and found a horrifying site in the summer.



Poor guy.

dam that sux ***!! 20b expensive to maintain! no that i kno of cuz i dont ahve but i can imagin


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