so you guys recommend a turbo with less reliability than a ****** wankel without turbo. I just get pissed when I grive my girlfriends 95 stang bone stock and it's got more guts than my small little rx. Compression isn't a problem, everything works fine, being as it does have 110k on it, but you know, I want some butts

 

Your car is slow. I'd smoke you to no end. I have 13 psi of compressed air going into my intake. You don't. End of story

 

the mustang just has more torque(sp) thats why it feels like more but in reality the hp isn't too much more 50-75. my '89 came in in the general area of 200hp-210hp, so im shure a bone stock '95 would have about the same or less, mabe more??. wasn't that the first year w/out a 5.0?? Im not sure about that ill have to look it up. the FD RZ on grand torismo come in at a whoping 71lbft of torque, while a mustang could get over 100lbft easy. You also have to put the fact that a mustang is a tank and the RX is much lighter so it will have a couple of advantages, the bigger rear gears(I have heard the stock gears at over 4.00,but im not sure about this. the stock Fox body mustangs came with 3.53s.). Also that creat 351W motor for that mustang is over $4000 and I have seen a complete JSPEC 13B-REW TT(twin turbo) motor, ECU, tranny, Wiring harness for $2000-$2500. So thats a plus. I sold my mustang for my RX and my RX is in worse shape than my mustang and still has exellent(sp) throtal responce w/ leaky injectors . just my $.02

P.s. If im wrong about some stuff sorry
EDITED: Sorry forgot the "REW" in the engine code.

 

"They don't sell convertibles with turbos in the U.S.

I would rather have a NA vert than any other 7

If it aint a drop top, I aint driving it.

Putting the roof down is all the BOOST I need "~ SAMPS


helll yea! Well put Samps.
speed is not "always" everything...
gotta ride w/ style.....

 

I got a coup w/ sunroof as my ideal, I value my life.... I would rather flip a coup at over 100mph than a vert. No offence to anyone who has or like verst, just not my prefference(sp) i guess.

 

I'm in complete agreement with our boostaholic moderator...

being that I"ve owned both an n/a and a tII...I BEAT UP my n/a every day...day in day out. Always to redline...and always hard on the brakes...no love...just go go go...and it was pretty reliable...

But If I wanted to go fast...

My TII was boosted to 1.0 kilo's with all kinds of goodies...and it would give a stock FD a run for it's money...sort of....but WAY faster than my n/a...

If I could get my n/a as fast as my stock TII...that would be awesome...but where do I go from there?

 

U go to a street port after that.

 

I'm more bang for the buck. I'd rather spend 5 g's on my TII (car included) and be able to run 11's all day instead of spending 5 grand on my NA and be in the 13's

 

...and that my friends, is the cruxt of the issue.

You can make an N/A RX-7 as fast as a stock to lightly-modded TII, and then you're done, unless you want a bridgeported, 12,000RPM, zero-torque-under-7k, loud-as-a-jumbo-jet, even-MORE-unreliable non-street car.

...and the TII will still be just as fast. Still running the stock intercooler.

Brandon

 

Probe's suck, sure you may be able to run 6's, but that's it. They have no more potential. IMO(through experience) probes are more unreliable then rx-7 turbo's. If you want more performance sell the N/A and get a turbo RX-7, supra turbo or 300zx turbo

 

supra, 300z. i hope you mean a mkiii and z31
i would think a mk iii turbo would be nice, theyre nice cars. no opinion on z31's though

 

Yo,


Okay, for all you that haven't read it:

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...threadid=20346


Someone tell me how that could have been better with a turbo. Guess what, it wouldn't have been. I probably would have been eyeing the gauges all the time to make sure I wasn't running hot, running lean, worrying about boost creep as I went down into the colder air of the valley, probably get in over my head with the speed generated by the power of the turbo.

Can you rail for over a full hour at WOT in a turbo rotary without worrying about something: blowing up, overheating, coking bearings, blowing off vacuum lines, blah blah blah? No, more than likely not.

That's what I love about my NA. It's worry free. You worry about hitting your apex, not blowing an apex.

It also comes down to how much fun you have in your car. I happen to like to DRIVE my car, so having it at the shop for weeks with problems, sitting in the garage for /years/ waiting for a new motor, not wanting to get on it because "it's still not running right" does not count as "driving" in my book. It's about seat time, and if you want lots of it, stick with NA. If you want seat time in your friend's passenger seat, stick with a turbo.

Last time I went to the illegals, I went with 3 other FC's all TII's. Guess who ran the most? Me. Guess who sat out the most? Them. The only guy who did run blew his motor a few weeks later. Did I lose most of the races? Yep! Did I have fun? Yep!

I'll take my "slow" NA rotary that I can actually drive at the limit /all day long/ without a care in the world than a "fast" turbo rotary that will always have that nagging doubt when the hammer is dropped: Is the motor going to blow today?

KS
1989 GTUs "Going on 3 years with NO downtime."

 

yea, i'm with kevin. i'd have my n/a for almost 3 years now and LOVE driving it. its never given me a problem. and i've had to depend on it for a LOT of driving. i've only put 25K on it in the past 3 years....but a lot of that driving have been 8 hours trip to NJ and back from VA. so if it ever let me down in that trip...that would suck. but it never has. and all i ever do is change the oil and plugs. i guess i was just lucky in finding an immaculate car

i gotta admit it feels slow as dogshit after i've taken the T2 for a spin...but oh well, at least when i'm driving the n/a i never even bother to look at the gauges cause i have such faith in the car i know nothing could ever go wrong.

over the summer my gf left me her civic hatcback to commute in. so of course being the poor man i am i used it everyday while the rex sat under a car cover most of the time. but i couldn't go over 4 days without driving the rex!!! there was just this force calling me to it. so twice a week i'd wait till sunset and take it out for a spin thru the mountain roads with the sunroof open (sorry kevin). just the best feeling. cruising thru the hairpin turns of 4000ft mountains here in va...nothing beats that. and ****, i wasn't trying to beat any rally records flying down the roads...but the 8K redling and motor that won't quit makes me never wanna get rid of my n/a

 

LMFAO

 

Ok, all of you guys calm down. You bought a N/a because you were like "Damn, a car that is 1.3 litres goes this fast and pulls this hard?" Than you were like suck it, I am going to put a bridgeported J-spec engine in there and nab some Hp. From there you were like, since I have a light *** car I am gonna make it lighter. So bye bye air pump, catylitics, PS, and hello NOS. My well this is what I said Nos is in the mail in a couple of months and are gona be hidden in my little two compartments. Six, 25 shooters a piece and no one will even no they are there without maybe looking under the hood which, is always down except when the car is in the garage, which is all the time. But seriously my car can waste my friends *** and he drives a tenth AE. However, I am a better driver, tinker, mechanic, pilot, drifter, whatever!!! Your car is a reflection of you, Are you a boosted, heavy ****? Or are you a strait shooting, iroc beatin, piston incendiay? You make the choice.

 

Bah, I persnally know of and have driven a very reliable high 12 second Probe GT turbo that doubles as a daily driver.

There is another mid-high 12 second Probe GT that's supercharged that is also a daily driver. Probes have rock solid engines, they are just finicky sometimes like the rotary.

 

There are so many things in this post that I could make fun of you about, but Ill be nice. And back to the original subject, I love my N/A for its reliability and ease of maintenance, but would I rather have a T2, yes I would, but I'd like an FD more, so thats my next car.

 

Everyone want to know how reliable an N/A is... I have a 89GXL and i drove and raced xxx miles with vacum lines off. Fixed it. MSD hooked up to trigger but not read timing signal.. Automatic triger. For xxx miles. It fried my box but still ran because I was firing the MSD automatically. Then i took it off and ran with no leading. EVen raced it to for xxx miles and I have the timing bumped ot almost top of that rail thing the nut slides on...( my meckanic did that) I have a squeeking slipping water pump because i took the airpump off. Race it all the time like that until i get my under pulleys put on.. Water temp never goes up. I Red line it once a day and even had wires swiched t1 and t2. Nothin happend. I had this problem with the S-AFC and car ran like **** and spit out raw gas. ( little spreckles out of tail pipe) for xxx miles till i unhooked it and relized the problem. I also have run very lean on it but never seems to ping at all. I always use 91 octain thou. But still never pings even when i had my huge intake leak... Like one u can here. tsssssss. I drove it like that for a wile to. Thats all i can remember right now. My car is still in tip top shape. Im starting to think that its invinsible. I have even bottomed out the suspension and drifted in it on intersections and suspension is still fine.. No leaks squeeks or rattles..... Saying that i rather have n/a because anyone can work on them and **** up that wont cost u your engine. I luv working on mine and can count on getting it started nomatter what happens. But once u drive a turbo that boost feel is such a rush. I cant wait till i get one someday. Although im not interested in making it fast. My plans are to put a 6psi turbo on a 1.6 litre miata. I just have to have one after driving my dads capri xr2 at 8 psi. Turbos are fun just my n/a is one strong beater. And Its no slouch either. If any turbo out thier wants to race me when i get some more mods i would be willing to bet i can take it. Even if it had intake exaust. I should be low 14s soon.

 

What's the point if 6psi? Those are strong engines. You can easily run 10-12psi on them without a hitch. www.flyinmiata.com Go there. They sell turbo kits, and have lots of info.

 

First off, it is totally up the person which car they think ibetter. wheater N/A or TII.

you have to remember the displacement for both is still 1.3 L and thats it.. thats all you got, and yes you can improve the efficiency of an N/A and then you get more HP. You could also do the same with a TII. What i'm trying to say is that you can't get something from nothing.

You push the limits because you want to, thats why someone buys a TII he/she wants to go fast.

Its all about comprimise right? do you like working on your car all the time..

just remember most exoitcs or any car that is tweaked for max preformance isn't too reliable.

I've never driven a ferrari or know anyone who does. but i bet if you drove that thing hard everyday it will break just like a TII, its just that they aren't drive all the time and people don't worry about it.

Just remember if something doesn't break you arne't pushing hard enough.

 

actually i think they can take around 8psi before needing a fuel system. But the reason i say 1.6 is because they get over 30 miles per gollon and Greddy has a turbo only for them with non adjustible 6psi for real cheap. 1500 new. With that i should be in the ITR range like low 15s with reliability and getting over 30 MPG. Pluss i would still feel the turbo rush... What do u think.. is that cool or what. I cant wait.

 

What could you make fun of?? the 99.9% acurate mustang stuff or the RX7 stuff I have read in this forum?? My post was as accurate as I could make it and I do have expirence with both cars seeing as I have owned both and have driven both. Enlighten me on what you could make fun of.

 

ok, lemme give it a try, lemme type up the quote and whatnot.

 

I did get the figures for the torque wrong, sorry its over 200 for the RZ and Infinity III and the cobra R is rated at over 300 so im guessing the 5.0 fox is between 250 and 300 mabe a little closer to 200 tho. Sorry about that.

 

1993 1.3 255hp 217lb/torque
1993 5.0 205hp 275lb/torque
1995 5.0 215hp 288lb/torque
1996 4.6 215hp 290lb/torque

I don't know what you're talking about for the 71lb/torque and 100lb/torque+

yes they're lighter

But $4000 for a 351W is probably more bolt in that a REW into a N/A coupe
$2000 for 13B-REW, then by a new drivetrain (tranny back to axles), then spend the time shoving it in and getting everything to fit and work (which it won't do easily)
And I don't think the stock twins will fit in. so custom pipe work, not to mention new engine mounts.
I'm sure you knew that all and I didn't have to tell you ;-)