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Old 11-03-01, 03:18 PM
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WHo has a v8 stuffed in there 7??

Ok guys before you go and flame me listen up,

i Have an idea "lightbulb"

Ok your rotary blows and you don;t want to get a rebuilt one because they will last for maybe 2 years before you need a new one, so your other choice is putting in a v8.

But you don;t wanna mess up your weight destribution!

before i go on im gonna need a few facts, how much does the rotary motor with tranny weigh?

i was just thiking of putting a aluminum v8 into it. and hey more power, and less money in the long run.

so if anyone here has a v8 rx7, post some pics,

my uncle just got a gold colored 7 with a racing engine in it, ill get some pics of that/

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i say we ban his *** now before he goes too far
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Lol, ya hate to say it but you should prolly post this in "other cars" section because then it wouldn't be an Rx-7. It would be some outcast misbreed.
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yeah, mosie on over to other cars, there are plenty of people who put N/A LT1's and Turbo GN Turbo V6's in. Plenty of torque, weight distro is pretty good, ill get you some links when im at my house.
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V8 in the car, yeech. I don't see how anyone can drink that stuff, vegetables squeezed for thier juice and put in a can (or bottle) thats just plain nasty, I recommend not putting any V8 in your car, if you spill it, you will never get that smell out.
so lets go over this again, V8 = bad

go get a real beverage!

this is what happens when you drink V8
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Re: WHo has a v8 stuffed in there 7??

Originally posted by AcTion SporT
Ok guys before you go and flame me listen up,

i Have an idea "lightbulb"

Ok your rotary blows and you don;t want to get a rebuilt one because they will last for maybe 2 years before you need a new one, so your other choice is putting in a v8.

But you don;t wanna mess up your weight destribution!

before i go on im gonna need a few facts, how much does the rotary motor with tranny weigh?

i was just thiking of putting a aluminum v8 into it. and hey more power, and less money in the long run.

so if anyone here has a v8 rx7, post some pics,

my uncle just got a gold colored 7 with a racing engine in it, ill get some pics of that/

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Check out http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/index.html . A turbo rotary block weighs about 200 lbs. The transmission is about another 80-100. The manifolds, etc. weigh about another 100.
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AMEN to most of the replies here already
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Re: Re: WHo has a v8 stuffed in there 7??

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The manifolds, etc. weigh about another 100.
I've never seen a rotary with huge cast iron manifolds on it.........
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Re: Re: Re: WHo has a v8 stuffed in there 7??

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I've never seen a rotary with huge cast iron manifolds on it.........
I was talking about the stock turbo and manifold, intake manifolds with all of that emmissions junk, air pump, etc. It adds up.
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http://www.v8rx7.com/mark.htm
http://www.v8rx7.com
http://www.turbobuicks.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000072.html
http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/index.html <---grannys which someone posted already but its always good to have 2nds :P
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I met that guy (Orlando_87GN on the GN forum) tonight and we talked about his project. Basically he's swapping in a GN turbo V6. I'm no fan of piston engines in RX's but his car was just a ratty old SE so I don't really mind... It will be interesting to see how it turns out.
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thanks dudes...

although you do have to admit that haveing an aluminum vette engine putting 405hp out would be wicked, in a rx7 of course

it weights maybe 50-100pounds more than the rotary and goes like ****.

its a good idea, and i might try it,

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i talked to those guys on the Turbo Buick forum, You can e-mail mark.corbett@qwest.com
I don't think he would mind since he e-mailed me to help answer any questions when i posted on the turbo buick forums. Nice guy, knows his stuff as far as what is needed for each engine and how much.

his car is the one from http://www.v8rx7.com/mark.htm
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Re: thanks dudes...

Originally posted by AcTion SporT
although you do have to admit that haveing an aluminum vette engine putting 405hp out would be wicked, in a rx7 of course

it weights maybe 50-100pounds more than the rotary and goes like ****.

its a good idea, and i might try it,

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What is "wicked" about a AL vette engine? Install a ported 13B with a T04 and you can have 400+rwhp. I guarantee it would cost less than an AL vette engine putting out 400+ rwhp. Who said rotary engines die after 2 years? Funny how my 91 vert still has the original engine...gee, that's 10 years!

I can appreciate the hard work that must go into destroying the car that I have spent so much time helping others fix, but I think it would be best appreciated in the "others" section since no RX-7 ever came with a ****-ton engine.

Next rotary questions please....

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only reasons i see is low end power and torque. thats it
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yeah, but see, with a ported turbo engine, it wouldn't even last half as long as a V8... with a V8, you have the DEFINITE torque advantage, and the engine longevity. But, if you're wanting a 350, then why don't you just take the 350 block, and make it into a 383 stroker. Then, you would be putting out well over 500 torque and 475hp easily...a friend of mine built one. It's a VERY well hung beast, and it REALLY sounds awesome when he runs it with open headers. Anyway, those are my two cents. More power to ya buddy...I would do it if I had the cash, but then again...I would have to think about the possiblities of a turbo rotary that was well modded if I had the cash.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: WHo has a v8 stuffed in there 7??

Originally posted by 13BAce

I was talking about the stock turbo and manifold, intake manifolds with all of that emmissions junk, air pump, etc. It adds up.
You are going to have to put all that "emissions junk" back into the car if you are going to pass smog tests etc, if you dont have smog limits where you are, then WHAT THE HELL IS THAT **** DOING IN THERE STILL???????????????????????????????????????????
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ha ha
$100 every year is worth it to get rid of that ****. **** **** ****!!!
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Re: thanks dudes...

Originally posted by AcTion SporT
although you do have to admit that haveing an aluminum vette engine putting 405hp out would be wicked, in a rx7 of course

it weights maybe 50-100pounds more than the rotary and goes like ****.

its a good idea, and i might try it,

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First off, let me tell you that an AL block is NOT what you want. Oh, they're fancy, and offer better cooling, but I have my Performance Automotive Warehouse catalog in front of me (great prices and selection) and an AL small block chevy is about $8600+. And that's only the long block (block, crank, pistons, rings, bearings, cam, heads, lifters, push rods, and gaskets) A stock chevy 350 bottom end can easily handle 400+hp. If you are really serious about this, Email me (misogynist77@hotmail.com) and I would be more than willing to give you advice, as I have built over a dozen small block chevys...
Hell, if you're really serious, maybe we can work out a trade...but I'd need some cash too, as my motor puts out considerably more than 400 puny horsies!
of course, it doesn't corner as well...

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pull one :-D
guy was telling me either GN turbo 6, or LT1. No 5.0's or anything else. Cause these where tried and true.


From an e-mail I had with Mark
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Re: 5.0's
Date:
Wed, 24 Oct 2001 19:00:55 -0400
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Ben Martin <node10@home.com>
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References:
1




mmmm 383, my dad used to have a '69 roadrunner with a 383 before my time. What
other bodies are nice for hybrids, light, good for auto-x. How bout datsuns?
They seem very popular and look like muscle cars ;-)
Thanks a whole lot for helping me out

"Corbett, Mark A" wrote:

> Don't pay more than $500 for an FC3S with a blown motor if it isn't a T2.
> Make it is 5 lug and has the 4 piston caliper brakes. Turbo 2 model would
> be ideal because you can sell the drivetrain and get money back. Then you
> can keep the Turbo 2 rear diff/axles or swap in the turbo 2 diff/axles into
> another 5lug car. It is very easy to do and cheaper insurance!
>
> If you can get a 5.0 drivetrain with 5 speed then that would be a good deal
> for under $1500 as long as it runs. Not many people guarantee them to
> run... need to shop around. Get an '87 up EFI 5.0 since they have Mass Air
> flow meters vs. Speed Density.... and do normal bolt ons (shorty equal
> length headers $169/chip/Cobra intake $399/K&N air filter $69) and the RX-7
> should run low 13's or high 12's. The way the intake sits on the 5.0 causes
> hood interference and you cannot have a flush hood.... cowl hood is answer
> and more $$$. If you bought a 5.0 engine/trans for $1500 then did Cobra
> intake $399/ Trick FLow aluminum heads $1000/E303 roller cam $200/new
> lifters $150/ you will have around 330hp and have a weak T-5 5speed that is
> prone to breaking and has a .67 5th gear. THis would put the car in the low
> 12's. The 5th gear ratio with 4:10's of the RX-7 will yield high freeway
> rpms and is not that desirable. So now you have a total investment of $3K+
> and still have a 330hp/5spd car.
>
> If you go '93-'97 LT1 350 from a Z28 Camaro with T56 6 speed you can get
> them for around $3-4K with warranty's from salvage yards that they run and
> are functional. The LT1 comes with aluminum heads, a good factory intake
> and with only headers and air filter and ECU mods will make around 325-350hp
> easy and you have a 6 speed (.75 5th and .50 6th gear) that is rated at
> 440ft/lbs of torque and in 6th gear will give awesome gas mileage. ALso the
> LT1 clears the hood, Granny's makes a motor/trans mount kit, and if you
> really get nuts you can make 700hp-1000hp from an LT1 with
> supercharger/turbo, 383 stroker assembly and good heads/cam. Don't do the
> 5.0.... do the LT1.
>
> Or you can build a 13B turbo and make around 350hp and invest a lot more
> than this swap takes, have the problem where if you get a bad batch of gas
> or tune wrong you will blow an apex seal and need a new motor, have shitty
> idle, and have just a 13B turbo car like everyone else..... vs. a
> firebreathing 350ci 6 speed V8 that sounds insane and if you need more power
> you can make double or triple that of a 13B.
>
> You make the choice.
>
> Check out http://www.v8rx7.com and click on messageboards to see what other
> people are doing. A bunch of 5.0's and L98 350's.. but the best one to do
> is the LT1 and 6speed if you want to do it right.
>
> Later,
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Martin [mailto:node10@home.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 12:13 PM
> To: Corbett, Mark A
> Subject: Re: 5.0's
>
> I'm getting a FC3S as a project car. I'll either get a turbo II and just get
> a streetported turbo 2 engine and build it up from there or go hybrid. Most
> likely 89-91
>
> "Corbett, Mark A" wrote:
>
> > you had posted on turbobuicks.com about swapping various engines into the
> > RX-7. What ?'s do you have.
> >
> > I'd rather not congest the board with talk about things that others don't
> > have interest in. That is a Buick V6 turbo message board.
> >
> > I'm GNX7 on the board by the way.
> >
> > Later,
> >
> > Mark Corbett
> > Sales Strategic Alliance
> > Qwest- Pacific Region
> > 415 369-4570
> > mark.corbett@qwest.com
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and of course im posting this only because I don't think he would mind and he seemed to want to help me out.
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Re: Re: thanks dudes...

Originally posted by Blue Goose


First off, let me tell you that an AL block is NOT what you want. Oh, they're fancy, and offer better cooling, but I have my Performance Automotive Warehouse catalog in front of me (great prices and selection) and an AL small block chevy is about $8600+. And that's only the long block (block, crank, pistons, rings, bearings, cam, heads, lifters, push rods, and gaskets) A stock chevy 350 bottom end can easily handle 400+hp. If you are really serious about this, Email me (misogynist77@hotmail.com) and I would be more than willing to give you advice, as I have built over a dozen small block chevys...
Hell, if you're really serious, maybe we can work out a trade...but I'd need some cash too, as my motor puts out considerably more than 400 puny horsies!
of course, it doesn't corner as well...
I was looking into this and I found a pulled LS1 motor from a wrecked Camaro on Ebay. (Actually I found several) Typical price for one of these was ~$1500.

Personally I have loved the LS1 ever since I had the chance to drive a C5 Vette. Nothing like having enough low end power to cruise around the neighborhood in 5th gear @ ~500 RPMs :-) Also the other cool thing with the Vette was that you could take it up to about 55mph in 1st gear.

Take care,
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: WHo has a v8 stuffed in there 7??

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You are going to have to put all that "emissions junk" back into the car if you are going to pass smog tests etc, if you dont have smog limits where you are, then WHAT THE HELL IS THAT **** DOING IN THERE STILL???????????????????????????????????????????
I don't have any of that stuff on my car, but he asked how much the motor weighs. I gave him a "real" answer.
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Re: WHo has a v8 stuffed in there 7??

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Ok guys before you go and flame me listen up
ah **** ! It is November already !?
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fc3s.org ....

hey fc3s.org

either you didn;t read my post well, or i was unclear but i said that a rebuilt rotary engine lasts for maybe 2 years.....alot of shops don;t know how to build them right, the engines will never be up to the standard that the original engine was

rebuilt- 2years tops, maybe little more, or less
original engine- 10+ if you take care of it/.

and $8600 for a Ls1? hahah, nope,

i would be taking out the motor out of a camaro/vette, that had been in an accident but no motor trans damage.

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