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Old 11-15-03, 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by j200pruf
How does using parallel fuel rails eliminate the the use of a PD?
It doesn't. People just don't put one in if they don't want.
Old 11-15-03, 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by Icemark
Honda and Toyota both used the same Denso screw in PD that was on the S4.
Hmm... I was wondering why the PD on my '87 Civic Si (toy car) looked almost, if not exactly like the one on my S4.

I spend way more time on Honda/Acura boards then here, and I have still yet to see a leaky PD post about any Honda. That's really weird if they are the same thing, at similar fuel pressure and overall age. I'm not doubting you, it's just kinda suprising.
Old 11-17-03, 08:00 PM
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assuming its never been replaced, would it be a good idea to replace it even though it shows no signs of failing? how can you tell if it is?
Old 11-17-03, 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by sectachrome
assuming its never been replaced, would it be a good idea to replace it even though it shows no signs of failing? how can you tell if it is?
It would not hurt to change it because then you know you have a good new one. Usually you don't find the old one is bad unless a) its leaking and you see the leak, b) its leaking and starts a fire, or c) you take it off for what ever reason and notice that it falls apart or has damage or missing pieces.
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I have seen more than a hand full of Hondas with Denso PDs have their PD's leak.
i worked at a honda specialist shop and serviced track hondas... never heard of this problem ever. as matter of fact, i've never heard of this problem from any car, from a stang to a civic.

There is even a informal factory recall if you bring a mid-eighties Honda Accord in with it leaking and complain about it.
would you mind sharing your source for this info?

Honda and Toyota both used the same Denso screw in PD that was on the S4.
they may have the same PD (i'm don't know about this, but they sure look the same), but they're mounted differently. the fc's PD is a male end, whereas the honda one is a female end. they are not interchangable. even the inlet ports on the PD's are different.

i may be wrong, but i sense that you were trying to defend for the fc. and if you were, i'd like to tell you that cars are not supposed to catch on fire, even at a rate of every 10 years. hondas are simply better engineered cars for this part. and if you weren't trying to defend for the fc, please ignore the immediate above opnion.

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Old 11-19-03, 01:07 AM
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"Honda and Toyota both used the same Denso screw in PD that was on the S4."

Maybe the reason our PD's fail prematurely is because the injectors work twice as often per Engine Revolution as they do in a piston motor? Just a thought.

What do u guys think?
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I GOT pd . !! =)
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Originally posted by Howi
i worked at a honda specialist shop and serviced track hondas... never heard of this problem ever. as matter of fact, i've never heard of this problem from any car, from a stang to a civic.


would you mind sharing your source for this info?


they may have the same PD (i'm don't know about this, but they sure look the same), but they're mounted differently. the fc's PD is a male end, whereas the honda one is a female end. they are not interchangable. even the inlet ports on the PD's are different.

i may be wrong, but i sense that you were trying to defend for the fc. and if you were, i'd like to tell you that cars are not supposed to catch on fire, even at a rate of every 10 years. hondas are simply better engineered cars for this part. and if you weren't trying to defend for the fc, please ignore the immediate above opnion.

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Info on the Honda unoffical recall thing came from Local Honda/Acura dealers (not specialist shops, but actual dealers) both here in Northern California and in San Diego. Simular to the Ignitor failure for the mid-late 80s accords, that the dealers were told to just replace the failed part, and Honda would make good if the customer was unhappy.

As far as the PD failure thing, check the compliants on the NTSHA. But then people say the S5 PD doesn't leak either...
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If you were to buy a new PD, and then cover the head of that screw with JB Weld (or any other hardener of your choice), would that possibly eliminate the need to ever worry about it again?
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nice inquiry RXmfn7.. i was wondering whats the torque on the pulsatim damper i just bought a new one buy havent installed it yet... how will i torque it down to spec all i can use is a wrenck. my friend santiago said to finger tighten it and then do a half circle liek from 0 to 180 degress.. does that sound liek enough torque to you guys?
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i just replaced mine about a week ago... just some word of advice turn the PD hand tight then u will need a 21 and 23 wrenches turn it about 180 degress and thats it... make sure all the fuel lines are tight!!! ( i had to take out the dynamic chamber twice since my fuel lines were loose) even if you think they are not just go ahead and give them a lil turn or go buy 50 cent clamps
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