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Whats more reliable PBR or Tockio Master / Slave clutch cyl. ?

Old Feb 3, 2010 | 07:48 PM
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Whats more reliable PBR or Tockio Master / Slave clutch cyl. ?

hey guys,

im buying a new slave and master oem replacement cyl. which of these two brands are more reliable and good.

PBR or Tockio

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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 08:03 PM
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I know Tockio is pretty much oem never heard of PBR

(I rarely hear about the stock Master / Slave clutch cyl failing on high hp set ups, so it shouldn't really matter)

my Master / Slave clutch cyl were rebuilt with stock parts and it's still holding up
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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NICE. thanks

thats good. has the slave or master cyl fail before on you
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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Tokico is what I use on all my vehicles...

My 1989 Mazda truck has new master and slave on it by Tokico. They've been sunk in mud and are still holding up fine years later.

My FBs and FCs all have held up years later as well.

They're a well known company and the same company that produces pretty decent shocks. They know hydraulic ****.
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^ your right. they are goos with hydraulics.

thanks im leading towards them. do you know where i can get clutch lines.
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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http://www.corksport.com/corksport-s...e-for-rx7.html
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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nice thanks. hardlines really dont need to be changed ?
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 09:19 PM
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hardline prob not, but check the soft line
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 10:59 PM
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I thought my Master/slave were leaking and couldn't figure it out. Turned out to be a hairline leak where the crimp meets the hose on the soft line.

Just replace it all if one is failing.
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 11:23 PM
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When I ordered from Mazdatrix I think I got PBR. No problems so far, but I've got less than 1000 miles on it.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 08:49 AM
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It is interesting that you say Mazdatrix is selling PBR masters/slaves, because their prices are a good bit lower than I just paid when I ordered Mazda OEM parts from Malloy Mazda. Usually Malloy can meet or beat Mazdatrix prices, but not on this. I guess maybe I was comparing apples and oranges. I believe I was quoted about $100 for the master and $70 for the slave vs. $53.02 and $48.06 from Mazdatrix.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 09:38 AM
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Malloy sells actual parts from Mazda. In this case, Mazdatrix is selling aftermarket parts but are still using an OEM-style part number. I called Malloy and Ray said "I don't know how they are selling at those prices" and it turns out that the Mazdatrix parts are not from Mazda. I just installed them anyway, I needed to get the car running.
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I wonder if the clutch master that I'll be getting in a Mazda OEM box for $100 would be any different from a Tokico master from a place like this:

http://www.thepartsbin.com/catalog/?...294963424+9192

I've never ordered anything from this site "The Parts Bin," but they claim to offer the Tokico master for only $57.95.

On the other hand, Amazon has one for $34.49:

http://www.amazon.com/Tokico-1023AMZ...tive&carId=001
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Originally Posted by daviddeep
It is interesting that you say Mazdatrix is selling PBR masters/slaves, because their prices are a good bit lower than I just paid when I ordered Mazda OEM parts from Malloy Mazda. Usually Malloy can meet or beat Mazdatrix prices, but not on this. I guess maybe I was comparing apples and oranges. I believe I was quoted about $100 for the master and $70 for the slave vs. $53.02 and $48.06 from Mazdatrix.
I usually hit up Olympus auto parts. www.forparts.com

They're right around the corner and have comparable prices.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 12:32 PM
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The last two times I bought cheap clutch hydros I got all of 3-6 months out of them. I think I got Tokico parts from mazdatrix the last time I ordered.

I find it a little wierd that Pabst got into clutch hydros though.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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This way, instead of using expensive hydraulic fluid, you can stop into the corner 7-11 and use a cheap beer instead!
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great thanks for the advice. im going to check those sites out and change that hardline too cause that mesh between soft and hard seems to go .
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